Jump to content

Welcome to ExtremeHW

Welcome to ExtremeHW, register to take part in our community, don't worry this is a simple FREE process that requires minimal information for you to signup.

 

Registered users can: 

  • Start new topics and reply to others.
  • Show off your PC using our Rig Creator feature.
  • Subscribe to topics and forums to get updates.
  • Get your own profile page to customize.
  • Send personal messages to other members.
  • Take advantage of site exclusive features.
  • Upgrade to Premium to unlock additional sites features.
IGNORED

Microsoft Recall being recalled


Recommended Posts

Quote

Microsoft has announced that the controversial 'Recall' feature will not be included in the upcoming Windows 11 Build for Copilot+ PCs scheduled to ship on Tuesday, June 18th. This built-in Windows feature, designed to take screenshots of user activities and allow querying for information at any time, has faced significant scrutiny and criticism. The company stated in a recent blog post, "Recall will now shift from a preview experience broadly available for Copilot+ PCs on June 18, 2024, to a preview available first in the Windows Insider Program (WIP) in the coming weeks." This indicates that even Windows Insiders will not have immediate access to Recall on June 18th but will need to wait for its availability in the Windows Insider Program.

https://www.guru3d.com/story/microsoft-delays-controversial-ai-feature-recall-in-windows-build/

 

 

This feels like the beginning of a way to sweep this whole thing under the rug. Delay it and limit it to preview versions before just quietly cancelling it. 

 

It's the right move. Recall is a terrible idea, and a PR nightmare for Microsoft’s AI ambitions. 

Edited by UltraMega
  • Great Idea 1
  • Agreed 3

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: 5800x
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS TUF Gaming B550-Plus
RAM: 32GB 3600mhz CL16
GPU: 7900XT
SOUNDCARD: Sound Blaster Z 5.1 home theater
MONITOR: 4K 65 inch TV
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

the one time a year I need to recall something important is not worth to me them taking screenshots of everything.  I can see some dude sitting at a desk thinking this is great and will help people though, sucks to be those guys. 

Owned

 Share

CPU: 12700k
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Tuf Z690 D4
RAM: G-Skill Trident 4000mhz DDR4
GPU: EVGA 3080 FTW Ultra
PSU: Seasonic Prime Titanium 750W
SOUNDCARD: EVGA Nu Audio Pro
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Premium Bronze
93 169

For now, give it a year it'll be back.

  • Agreed 5

Owned

 Share

CPU: 11900k 5.4 single / 4.9 all core
MOTHERBOARD: Asus TUF Z590
RAM: 32gb G.Skill DDR4-4000 CL16 @ 3733 14-14-14-32 2T 1.49v
GPU: AMD 6900XT 2500/2100 1.115mV
CPU COOLER: Noctua NH-D15 Chromax
SOUNDCARD: Creative Sound Blaster Z
PSU: 750w Evga SuperNOVA p2
CASE: Fractal Torrent Black
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: i9 10900
MOTHERBOARD: Asrock Steel Legend Z590
RAM: 64gb T-Force Vulcan Z 3600 c18
GPU: Asrock Challenger Arc A380
PSU: 850w NZXT Hale-82
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: Ryzen 7 4700U
RAM: 32gb Kingston Fury c20 3200
GPU: Vega 7 APU
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ever since Nadella took over Microsoft, they've been in an echo chamber about how great their ideas that have no respect for customer privacy are. The insane part is that their user base has such a high concentration of enterprise customers.

 

 

  • Agreed 1

null

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X
MOTHERBOARD: Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi
RAM: 64 GB (2x32 GB) G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5-6000 CL30
GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: 1 TB WD_BLACK SN850X PCIe 4.0 NVMe
SSD/NVME 2: 2 TB WD_BLACK SN770 PCIe 4.0 NVMe
MONITOR: 38" LG UltraGear 38GN950-B 3840x1600 144 Hz
MONITOR 2: 55" Samsung Neo QLED QN85A 4K 120 Hz 4:4:4
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
MOTHERBOARD: ASRock X300M-STM
RAM: 16 GB (2x8 GB) ADATA DDR4-3200 CL22
SSD/NVME: 500 GB Gigabyte Gen3 2500E PCIe 3.0 NVMe
SSD/NVME 2: 3.84 TB Samsung PM863a Enterprise SATA 6 Gbps
CASE: ASRock DeskMini X300W
CPU COOLER: Thermalright AXP90-X36
CPU COOLER 2: [Fan] Noctua NF-A9x14 92mm PWM 2.52 W
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Administrators
6.1k 3,251

Ultimately I think it will come back, but hopefully with some additional security parameters to restrict compromise. While it said that recall is stored locally only on a users PC, and for now we have to go with that tagline until proven otherwise, I would still like to see Recall being harder to access from the local PC, whether it be password/Biometric protected using something other than your Windows login. 

 

I do not like the fact that if someone knows your Windows password/ you have left you PC unlocked that someone could potentially swoop in and navigate your PC history. Not cool.

 

Not only this but unless I have missed it, I would expect that the recall feature be fully encrypted. Of course I mean completely outside that of something like bitlocker/similar. Recall itself should have its own independent solution regardless of any OS level encryption. 

 

Would I find Recall useful, possibly on the odd occasion as a supplementary tool, but my first port of call would be my own personal backup scheme I already have running. I would rather use my storage space on my PC for Work/Games and general storage, not to fill it up with Recall backups. I have a NAS for that lol.

  • Agreed 1

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Meg Ace X670E
RAM: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB (6000MT/s)
GPU: EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: Corsair MP700 Pro SE Gen 5 4TB
PSU: EVGA Supernova T2 1600Watt
CASE: be quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev 2
FANS: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC x 6
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: Intel Core i5 8500
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Kingston 2666Mhz
SSD/NVME: 256GB Samsung NVMe
NETWORK: HP 561T 10Gbe (Intel X540 T2)
MOTHERBOARD: Proprietry
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630
PSU: 90Watt
CASE: HP EliteDesk 800 G4 SFF
Full Rig Info

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: 2 x Xeon|E5-2696-V4 (44C/88T)
RAM: 128GB|16 x 8GB - DDR4 2400MHz (2Rx8)
MOTHERBOARD: HP Z840|Intel C612 Chipset
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P2200
HDD: 4x 16TB Toshiba MG08ACA16TE Enterprise
SSD/NVME: Intel 512GB 670p NVMe (Main OS)
SSD/NVME 2: 2x WD RED 1TB NVMe (VM's)
SSD/NVME 3: 2x Seagate FireCuda 1TB SSD's (Apps)
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Premium Bronze
876 694
On 16/06/2024 at 06:46, ENTERPRISE said:

Ultimately I think it will come back, but hopefully with some additional security parameters to restrict compromise. While it said that recall is stored locally only on a users PC, and for now we have to go with that tagline until proven otherwise, I would still like to see Recall being harder to access from the local PC, whether it be password/Biometric protected using something other than your Windows login. 

 

I do not like the fact that if someone knows your Windows password/ you have left you PC unlocked that someone could potentially swoop in and navigate your PC history. Not cool.

 

Not only this but unless I have missed it, I would expect that the recall feature be fully encrypted. Of course I mean completely outside that of something like bitlocker/similar. Recall itself should have its own independent solution regardless of any OS level encryption. 

 

Would I find Recall useful, possibly on the odd occasion as a supplementary tool, but my first port of call would be my own personal backup scheme I already have running. I would rather use my storage space on my PC for Work/Games and general storage, not to fill it up with Recall backups. I have a NAS for that lol.

I already foresee malware targeting the "save" folder of the program and sending the info home to the hackers. More infected FB commercials and tiktok videos await us if this does become a thing.

Oh,then Microsoft will be "That won't happen if you run Windows in "S" mode.....🙄

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Administrators
6.1k 3,251
3 hours ago, schuck6566 said:

I already foresee malware targeting the "save" folder of the program and sending the info home to the hackers. More infected FB commercials and tiktok videos await us if this does become a thing.

Oh,then Microsoft will be "That won't happen if you run Windows in "S" mode.....🙄

 

Exactly that, this is why Recall needs to be secure. Imagine how damaging that could be if malware could obtain all or even part of your recall history. So many people save in plain text logins on their desktops or other areas. I can see it being a potentially huge problem.

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
MOTHERBOARD: MSI Meg Ace X670E
RAM: Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB (6000MT/s)
GPU: EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra Gaming
SSD/NVME: Corsair MP700 Pro SE Gen 5 4TB
PSU: EVGA Supernova T2 1600Watt
CASE: be quiet Dark Base Pro 900 Rev 2
FANS: Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC x 6
Full Rig Info

Owned

 Share

CPU: Intel Core i5 8500
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Kingston 2666Mhz
SSD/NVME: 256GB Samsung NVMe
NETWORK: HP 561T 10Gbe (Intel X540 T2)
MOTHERBOARD: Proprietry
GPU: Intel UHD Graphics 630
PSU: 90Watt
CASE: HP EliteDesk 800 G4 SFF
Full Rig Info

£3000

Owned

 Share

CPU: 2 x Xeon|E5-2696-V4 (44C/88T)
RAM: 128GB|16 x 8GB - DDR4 2400MHz (2Rx8)
MOTHERBOARD: HP Z840|Intel C612 Chipset
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P2200
HDD: 4x 16TB Toshiba MG08ACA16TE Enterprise
SSD/NVME: Intel 512GB 670p NVMe (Main OS)
SSD/NVME 2: 2x WD RED 1TB NVMe (VM's)
SSD/NVME 3: 2x Seagate FireCuda 1TB SSD's (Apps)
Full Rig Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

This Website may place and access certain Cookies on your computer. ExtremeHW uses Cookies to improve your experience of using the Website and to improve our range of products and services. ExtremeHW has carefully chosen these Cookies and has taken steps to ensure that your privacy is protected and respected at all times. All Cookies used by this Website are used in accordance with current UK and EU Cookie Law. For more information please see our Privacy Policy