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J7SC_Orion
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If I would be mean, I would point out that the 7950X3D did that with < 160W -
...might as well wait for AGESA 1.1.0.0 now @neurotix just Google the board for whatever info you are looking for, noting that with DDR5, it is more than just daisy chain versus t-top - it also comes down to board layers and insulation. In any case, I showed up to 8200 on 2 SR sticks, so it has decent capabilities.
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On prior AMD boards, this could be due to USB population with earlier bios, but I heave not heard anything re. that on AM5
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IMO, too much overhead (and also AMD data siphoning). Once installed, it keeps a process open and reported task manager even when you tuned it off and do not have Ryzen Master auto-loading at start. Only uninstalling Ryzen Master will get rid off that extra process in task manager.
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...see the APNX case used in a build project by DerBauer:
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I just started using that app... I had finished my regular-speed COs the old-fashioned way but now, for additional eclk settings, that app is really handy and also quicker (fewer reboots).
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I am not sure whether the 'second CCD boosting' issue would be solved by a new mobo. What is more, there is no guarantee that your CPU itself can run 8000 error-free on another board. Honestly, I would either swap my CPU, or more likely wait for the Ryzen 8K series which is already in engineering sample mode.
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...seem tight to me, but if it works w/o errors than they must be ok. Better ask @kaliz though as most of my experience is with 1:2 ~ 8000
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I run 8, 8 anyways but Buldzoid edited the subject later by adding "(AMD works differently)" EDIT: Zen for my current daily (non-bench) setting, stress tested. FYI, 7950X3D tend to have higher binned cores and IMC - though it still also comes down to mobo topography and RAM type. In terms of performance, the CL30 6400 1/1 setting gets closest to this one
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There are a couple of other tools available such as CoreCycler, but I just use Process Lasso which I got back in the TR 2950X days; so I'm used to it.
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... > here you go
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MannyX-ITA (OCN) released several custom versions specific to each Ryzen 7 type...I tried some of them, and they're quite good, with or without core-parking...but again, it also comes down to choosing the right ones, ie. single vs dual CCDs, and also regular CCD Ryzen 7K or the X3D ones. I reverted back to my 'hi-po' regular Win 11 Pro plan for now.
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This is a 7950X3D, essentially voltage-locked 'upwards' - stork voltages in my earlier post (confirmed by HWInfo)
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...had a little bit of fun with DLAA, Frame Gen and 8K max settings in MSFS 2020; never seen this much VRAM allocation before...
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After 'eclk' and stock bclk tuning, I did some more custom bclk and custom CO; single core on CCD0 VCache can now hit 5370...hasn't failed single test yet but I don't want to push the CPU over the edge, either...
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...wrong thread @bonami2 ...some early Geek6 single / multi-core benchmarks for the new Threadripper Pro 7985WX (64c/128t) on the left. On the right, my best run with the 7950X3D / DDR5 8k. I am sure the 7985WX numbers will improve with final bios and so forth, but the new TR Pros are obviously more geared forwards productivity anyway, including with plenty more PCI lanes.
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...with a well-cooled 3090, 2200 MHz is possible. My 3090 Strix OC (extensively w-cooled, 3x 8 PCIe, 520 W KingPin vbios) can do a bit more under ideal circumstances.
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I can certainly understand your frustration... Before RMAing, I would do one more attempt to completely reset everything (ie. battery out, PSU disconnected) because you might be stuck in no-man's land on the bios chip itself. Presumably, the board also has bios flashback - going back to the earlier bios version, if possible. If that doesn't solve it, you probably do want to RMA, but is it the CPU, the mobo or RAM ?
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It would be great if AMD would see fit to release some 3D VCache Threadripper / Pro as well for TRX 50 / WRX 90, either as 16 C 3D VCache + 16 C normal Zen 4 cores, 32 C 3D VCache + 32 normal Zen 4 cores, or as pure 32 3D VCache or even pure 64 3D VCache...apart from some concerns about cannibalism of AMD's own Epyc line, this should be possible. Their Epyc server line has models with up to 96 C all 3D VCache (and up to 1152 MB of L3), all fed by 12 channel DDR5 RDIMM, so their should be some room for Threadripper / Pro models. I am running a 7950X3D / DDR5 8000 daily settings and am thrilled by that CPU and RAM combo - I can only imagine what a 32 C or 64 C mixed or pure 3D VCache would do, even with 'just' 4 or 8 channel DDR5 5200 RDIMMs.
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The DDR5 RAM was already pretty well cooled with an Arctic P12 pst fan right above it in my 670E setup, but I was rummaging around in some older boxes and found this genuine GSkill RAM cooler with dual fans, complete with blue LEDs . Believe it or not, it lowered RAM temps another 4 C - 5 C during longer RAM stress tests. Also, tightened tRDRD and tWRWR just a bit. The rest are still my 24/7 daily 8000 timings.
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Yeah, minimum for Ryzen 7K is 1.3 C Pro - anything later (ie. 1.3 F Pro_ after should work fine. Hydra Pro includes CinebenchR23 which it is why it is quite a large file. Hydra was just a touch optimistic on my system for COs but not by much...Cinebench at al ran just fun with the Hydra-recommended CO values. Aida SHA3 not so much with those values, but then, SHA3 is weird anyways
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...yeah. the only 'official' working link I have seen when searching yesterday was an even newer version, Hydra 1.5. The one @neurotix linked also appears to be newer than 1.3 C Pro so it should work - just virus-check everything re. sites ! BTW, Gigabyte / Aorus has not yet released the latest Agesa-based bios for my board - then again, they used to release bug-fixes right after an early release - hopefully, they take their time and get it right the first time with the '0.8' version. FCLK 2200 & DDR5 8000 is doable on my setup but I have it at 2167 (2175) or 219X (w/bclk) for now until the new bios for the board drops. I am also going to try some additional tRRD, tFAW and tWTR again on the weekend per you earlier post. EDIT: mobo won't let me set tFAW below 20
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...I probably prefer the Asus (and/or Gigabyte) > TRX series, preferably as TRX90s ed.: @bonami2 - some better pics of the Asus & added a pic of the Gigayte
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Per below, I tried tRRDS 8 > 6 and tFAW 32 >24 on the 7950X3D with all else the same...as expected, it did not make any difference at all outside normal run-to-run variance (I used the TimeSpy CPU test as control). IMO, the memory controller just ignores tRRDS below 8 with DDR5 (unlike DDR4)...
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...hard to diagnose long distance without more info. One thing I would try no matter what in such a situation is to unplug the PSU completely and then take the mobo battery out. That should result in a factory fresh reset (you might also want to get a spare mobo battery, just in case). Also, does your board have a dual bios ?
