pio

Okay seriously, let's talk about AMD's drivers.  Yes, there's legitimate reasons why people don't like them.  One CAN say the same about Nvidia's drivers too, let's be fair to both sides.

I just had the weirdest problem with my 7900XTX though.  When I first built the rig, it ran fantastically!  I installed the latest 24.1.1 WHQL official drivers, and I started having random freezing happen.  Turns out, its a Freesync bug.  I turned off Freesync and the problems went away.

That's why I'm here to plug the after market drivers.

Seriously, if anybody happens to have any weird bugs, glitches, or breaking problems with official AMD drivers for ANY GPU from the HD5000 series and newer GPU's (so the last decade +)......go try those drivers.  They work REALLY well.

That is all.  Just wanted to spread the good word.   

Lost a few points / WU's or whatever last night. -_-

I decided I'd go ahead and try a game out because I was bored on a Saturday night.  Closed the folding client window.  Didn't realize it was still folding.  Started a game up.  It kept freezing at completely random for like a full second at a time.  Rebooted my machine.  Tried another game out.  Actually froze entire system - even audio and mic stopped working (but it came back).  Realized there was something even more wrong with this new system than I thought.......

DDU'd and reinstalled R.ID modded drivers on the 7900XTX.  Problems are solved. -_-

Started my folding client again.

Never did play a damn game. -_-

On 23/01/2024 at 21:11, HeyItsChris said:

Here are the running results, it would appear to be using too much voltage & throttling so we will reduce voltage & clock to reduce throttling.

 

You shouldn't need more vcore to get 1400 core clock on a 580, and 2000 on the RAM is stock clocks.

1.20v and a 200w power limit is like 1450-1500 core clock speeds range.  Assuming your card can clock that high.

Both of my Asus RX 580's will do 1450c / 2050m clocks at 1.20v with a 200w modded BIOS.  They're not happy there, but they'll bench there.  My MSI version of the card will actually run stable at those clocks though.  Depends on your cooling capabilities with the card honestly.  Keep it cooler, it'll clock higher.

Double post but whatever I don't care:

NEXT TIME you get a GPU wet (with any wet substance)

Take it FULLY apart
Clean it with ALCOHOL (not soap)
Let it dry FULLY for literally DAYS
Put it back together with new TIM and new thermal pads (or putty)
And THEN try it out

Do not EVER try to turn on previously wet electronics (in general) without doing this.  Or you WILL have a bad time.

24 minutes ago, HeyItsChris said:

I think I have dried up soap in between pins still and possible under the what mPGA or BGA or whatever you call it?  The Silicon chip, underneath it where the pins are might be dirty from when I used hand soap to clean it the first time (what an idiot i am) but its a lesson learned.  I think I can still fix it just need the right stuff & a bit of time.

What are you doing using soap on a GPU???????????

Dude, I think that cards dead.  

Stop powering it up, like I said the other day.  Take it FULLY apart.  Clean it with alcohol THOROUGHLY.  Let it dry for DAYS.  And then put it back together and give it a go.

It's PROBABLY dead at this point though.  Those photos you showed earlier are not a good sign at all.  That's probably dead VRAM.

3 hours ago, SoloCamo said:

 

 

Thanks.  I'm ok with a 200w load on it, especially considering I usually game at 255w for hours on end so this will be fine - rather get the points.  I've got it still at 2500mhz boost (most workloads seem to be around 2300-2400mhz core) and the mem is still set to 2100mhz w/ fast timings.   Dropped the PL -10% to 230w now just to cap it but I've yet to see it hit above 215w folding so far.  What ambient temps do you have @pioneerisloud?  My card hasn't hit even 70C on the hotspot with rpms on the reference amd cooler at 1400rpm (during folding that is).  My ambient is around 73F right now in the house.

My 6900XT is a problem child.  MSI used a HDT cooler on the die, and the die on these cards REALLY wants a flat copper base.  The hotspot on my card is so hot because of the little cracks between the heatpipes.  I've already used thermal putty and one of those graphite sheets for TIM on it, and that didn't help it much at all.

My ambient apartment temperatures, I'm TRYING to keep it below 77*F inside (so far I've been lucky).  So my ambient is anywhere from 72-77*F or so.  I do try to keep it below 75*F, but with all these cards folding.....well its getting hot in herre.  

2 hours ago, damric said:

You can get that card down below 150w and not sacrifice much folding capability.

 

When I'm not trying to heat the house or run up the power bill I just set it to 80% core frequency and 90% voltage (seems to stay around 2000MHz 800mV).

 

I've been a bit more aggressive this week though.

 

 

I've got my 6900XT running at "stock" 2500MHz boost / 2000 mem, with a -10% power tune.  Seems to be boosting still around stock levels, but only drawing around 200w instead of the 300w it was overclocked and at +12% powertune or whatever.  Hotspot isn't near throttling either, nice and "cool" 85 ish degrees on the hotspot.  

7 hours ago, Cerberus said:

able to confirm, just going to https://extremehw.net/ and hitting enter, does open the review.

Also can confirm.  Happens on me with Brave / Win11 or Win10.  I didn't even think about just hitting enter on the homescreen, yeah its the carousel causing that behavior.

4 minutes ago, LabRat said:

IIRC, the gen. rule of thumb for a LC leak-damaged card, is a full bath in 91% isopropyl alcohol, and then actively drying for a day, or passively drying for 3-5+ days (depending on temps and humdity)

This would be a fantastic start if you hadn't done so already.  Like, immediately, before you hurt the poor Vega.    Even if its just water, just water WILL evaporate just fine yes.  It's, like Labrat mentioned, moreso about any dust or literally anything else that the water could've drug in with it.  Get the card 110% clean, 120% dry, and put back together and repasted / repadded.  And then give it a go.  And firstly, I'd say try it in a regular PC / bench setup whatever without the riser first.  Make sure the card itself actually is working good first before you try it in the risered extension.  Process of elimination.  

2 minutes ago, HeyItsChris said:

i got it wet lol

26 minutes ago, HeyItsChris said:

Mine uses Oculink, not the dual hdmi version.  Mines the newest one, the v10.1 released like less than 30 days ago.

 

I tried NimeZ drivers.  I hope together we can figure this out.

People in the thread Labrat linked to earlier recommended this extension:
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/2255799918873144.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

Have you tried the GPU in a different machine yet to rule the riser out completely?  Have you tried other risers?  The card is being recognized, kinda.  You can also check the windows error reporting I believe for any PCIe errors?  If there's PCIe errors, its the riser probably.

5 minutes ago, iamjanco said:

Also, as a retired albeit fairly experienced web dev/designer, the note that follows might be useful as well (fwiw):

 

Note: given the wide array of available browsers/viewport sizes/etc. (e.g., mobile vs. desktop; different screen sizes, portrait vs. landscape, etc.) that are likely in use, when reporting content related issues/problems, it'd be a lot more helpful if those reports included any additional relevant info that can be provided.

 

A shortlist follows:

• the name of the browser used when the issue was noted (e.g., firefox vs. chrome, vs edge, etc.);
• if applicable, desktop vs laptop, screen size., operating system, etc.;
• if applicable, mobile phone/tablet make and model; whether viewing in portrait or landscape, etc.;
• and whether you tried to confirm the issue could be repeated using a different browser/hardware/os, etc.

 

 

I can replicate it every time on Brave Browser on desktop, which I believe is based off Chrome?  Mobile doesn't APPEAR to do it.  I don't have / use any other browsers to test, nor will I be installing one to test since its a minor issue.   

22 minutes ago, pututu said:

Ok, with just a few clicks and with excel, here is today's top 100 users output as of Jan 25 2024, 12 noon CST. Posted in the challenge result link.

P.S. our [H] site has issues.

TOP 100 USERS TODAY'S OUTPUT (25 JAN 2024, 12:00 noon CT)

Rank	User_Name	Team_Name	Sum of Points_Today
1	Skillz	Team AnandTech	180,581,643
2	Icecold	Team AnandTech	170,087,079
3	keeph8nOC	ExtremeHW	157,512,282
4	Holdolin	www.overclockers.com	151,165,793
5	HayesK_GRC_724e7c4546744e3441b763e5d15d1247	www.overclockers.com	99,264,025
6	crashtech	Team AnandTech	97,291,998
7	Mark_F_Williams	Team AnandTech	96,406,503
8	firedfly	ExtremeHW	79,887,709
9	Pokey_TA	Team AnandTech	74,453,897
10	CoolGTX	folding@evga	65,102,616
11	SmookinJoe	folding@evga	59,574,373
12	w_a_h	Team AnandTech	59,192,666
13	elblat	ExtremeHW	47,073,151
14	wareyore_GRC_949e04e467a28045a752909a90e43274	[H]ardOCP	40,820,635
15	dfonda_Team32	www.overclockers.com	37,499,891
16	whitleyca	folding@evga	34,436,306
17	WhitehawkEQ	www.overclockers.com	32,924,837
18	russnuck	[H]ardOCP	27,988,279
19	biodoc	Team AnandTech	27,305,137
20	Avacado	ExtremeHW	24,355,386
21	Earthdog	www.overclockers.com	19,881,130
22	cellarnoise2	Team AnandTech	18,816,680
23	Schro	[H]ardOCP	18,279,133
24	bigred	ExtremeHW	17,579,390
25	Ian_Ellis	folding@evga	16,106,511
26	PaperClip	ExtremeHW	15,966,888
27	Endgame124	Team AnandTech	15,320,896
28	mmonnin	Team AnandTech	15,054,572
29	Farwalker	www.overclockers.com	14,362,089
30	Woomack	www.overclockers.com	13,537,989
31	ChelseaOilman_GRC_7aac529d73a2ad65d9dd1b893fccf532	Team AnandTech	13,499,358
32	Opolis	folding@evga	13,229,118
33	kmoyer	folding@evga	12,864,520
34	fluxmaven	ExtremeHW	12,861,002
35	bill1024	folding@evga	12,519,661
36	EXT64	[H]ardOCP	12,272,935
37	Ammskore	folding@evga	11,962,123
38	10esseetony	Team AnandTech	11,479,844
39	Red_Falcon	[H]ardOCP	11,291,278
40	don256us_ALL_1LWUMMFQmLgno74BvRHM36PcjWWrZ5WwFZ	www.overclockers.com	10,963,984
41	motqalden_GRC_816361fd0d181cb7a7c3a14765e3d638	[H]ardOCP	10,364,914
42	harlam357	www.overclockers.com	10,169,573
43	xaxxon	[H]ardOCP	10,163,813
44	Dippyskoodlez	www.overclockers.com	9,891,566
45	ByteDown[H]ard	[H]ardOCP	9,803,667
46	m8x425	folding@evga	9,384,839
47	P4EE	www.overclockers.com	8,692,267
48	pututu_GRC_a2046194c7167b7b9b151894eaee6792	[H]ardOCP	7,917,409
49	mflanaga	folding@evga	7,698,959
50	Railgun	www.overclockers.com	6,982,441
51	SparksNmagic_([H]ardOCP)	[H]ardOCP	6,737,264
52	Coleslaw_GRC_1bb993deb5284d5f357c6ef05d8eddb2	[H]ardOCP	6,708,778
53	superducky	www.overclockers.com	6,699,842
54	DeputyKovacs	www.overclockers.com	6,668,842
55	[H]ugh_Freak	[H]ardOCP	6,481,175
56	Cypher-	[H]ardOCP	6,448,162
57	pioneerisloud	ExtremeHW	6,335,324
58	Raymond_Abbott	www.overclockers.com	6,310,451
59	T-Wolf	folding@evga	6,243,966
60	AllStarMe	[H]ardOCP	6,144,874
61	orion456	www.overclockers.com	6,054,150
62	Notfordman	folding@evga	5,996,827
63	Grub	www.overclockers.com	5,791,326
64	torin3_ALL_1K91apgu4f5M26DrYL79Mpa7dhVfmBx4Xo	www.overclockers.com	5,595,979
65	inder372	folding@evga	5,558,348
66	jefjames	folding@evga	5,382,659
67	joedpl	folding@evga	5,076,686
68	yodap	folding@evga	5,009,723
69	Toconator	[H]ardOCP	4,667,518
70	Trikat	[H]ardOCP	4,588,568
71	Duality92	ExtremeHW	4,460,019
72	MacAttack	[H]ardOCP	4,315,011
73	tjmagneto	[H]ardOCP	4,202,233
74	Nathan_P	[H]ardOCP	4,153,517
75	King_of_Efland	Team AnandTech	4,000,766
76	John	[H]ardOCP	3,850,173
77	sparetimepc	folding@evga	3,833,235
78	Johnny56J5	folding@evga	3,787,893
79	drnickriviera_GRC_7133603969c815049908de72f2635e64	Team AnandTech	3,753,672
80	Bill_Kirchner	folding@evga	3,685,855
81	Doomed83	folding@evga	3,668,555
82	desktopgeek	folding@evga	3,633,456
83	sbinh	[H]ardOCP	3,246,273
84	robert_scheel	www.overclockers.com	3,219,616
85	cerberus	ExtremeHW	3,159,565
86	C6Vette	folding@evga	3,089,283
87	Duff&Diana	[H]ardOCP	3,050,293
88	Dexter	Team AnandTech	3,038,188
89	Hostile	Team AnandTech	3,011,630
90	mx500torid	ExtremeHW	2,990,943
91	franz	ExtremeHW	2,984,046
92	Ducrider	[H]ardOCP	2,825,794
93	FullMetalBoxers	folding@evga	2,824,674
94	Doozer	[H]ardOCP	2,565,690
95	[H]auntjemima	[H]ardOCP	2,488,360
96	BWentler	[H]ardOCP	2,469,850
97	jetmek	[H]ardOCP	2,386,877
98	Ian-n-Steve_C.	Team AnandTech	2,269,890
99	dirty	[H]ardOCP	2,262,628
100	Lowryder(www.overclockers.com)	www.overclockers.com	2,237,590

That is AWESOME!  Ty for sharing.   

Alright so I can be on any page and this happens, but lets go ahead and say I'm on the homepage.  I type in, idk, let's say "pio" in the search and hit enter.

A wild new tab appears!
https://reviews.extremehw.net/all-reviews/corsair-mp700-pro-2tb-nvme-review/
 

Meanwhile in the background on the tab I was originally browsing and searching on:
https://extremehw.net/search/?q=pio&quick=1

This has been a recurring bug for a while now.  I just keep forgetting to report it.  

EDIT:  Also, I'm pretty sure its almost always the TOP review that gets pulled up as a new tab.  I think.  Cannot confirm as its almost gotten instinctual to just close the tab and continue going.

2 hours ago, axipher said:

 

thanks for posting updates here for us.

Sorry to hear about the bot scrapping issue, must explain why I can't access the website:

I was probably flagged as one of those bots.  

I was getting that same error message trying to check the stats all night.  I assumed it was my VPN, tried without and same problem.  I'll have to wait for updates here then. 

Alright awesome.  Let's see if this continues!!

I'm actually almost impressed with my output at this point.  I'm going to HATE my electrical bill though. 

Between a Ryzen 7900x, 5800x, and RX 7900XTX, 6900XT, and 5700XT (I shut down the Ryzen 3600, wasn't helping output at all).........I'm doing roughly 10m PPD!

At roughly 1500w worth of power draw across 3 rigs (or more).

13 minutes ago, damric said:

If you feel like your points are LOW, check here to make sure that you are getting the quick return bonus:

 

https://apps.foldingathome.org/bonus

 

You need a minimum of 10 WU completed and over 80% not failed.

 

That seems low for the Ryzen 3600. I have a stock Ryzen 1600 folding on 4c8t and it's at least getting like 90K  And I mean stock like 3700MHz core, DDR4-2133 lol. Maybe give it a couple hours then check the ppd again?

Yeah it was just being fired up.

Ryzen 3600 is doing about 200k PPD
5700XT is doing about 1m PPD give or take.

Honestly, I was expecting a LOT more.  5800x / 6900XT rig is doing nearly 5m PPD right now combined.  Next gen older is doing 1.2m.  Big ouch.  Whatever, its a good stability check for my 3 newest rigs in the house.  

20 minutes ago, damric said:

Sorry I meant to do that. Thanks for reminder. I put the link in the second post. I don't think that one updates quickly at all, like maybe twice it updated today.

No worries.

I've got 3 rigs going.  7900x, 7900xtx, 5800x, 6900xt, and even a Ryzen 3600 with a 5700XT.  All folding.  The Ryzen 3600 I might shut down if it continues with only 8k PPD, that's definitely nowhere near worth the energy.  The rest of these parts are doing alright though.  About 500-700k PPD per CPU (5800x / 7900x), and roughly 3m PPD on each GPU (the 5700XT is still calculating).

I might be able to beat a single 3080Ti with all these rigs!  

Can we possibly have a link at least or something to the current placing / stats for our team and the competition as a whole in the OP maybe?  I'm not sure if that's possible on our end or not seeing as its not our competition.  Just a request, so its not so hard to dig for the info.  I am a little bit curious to see how much I'm contributing, but I'm also curious to see how well we're doing vs the other teams too.

Looking like we MIGHT take over EVGA soon?

11 minutes ago, damric said:

Ethan said we can fold on his gaming PC so that's another 5800x and RX 6600 into the mix (under MicheleEHW).

Is the 5800x worth folding on?  I thought they weren't?  I can load up my 5800x and 7900x.

I'm now officially in.  pioneerisloud

I have 7900XTX and 6900XT going.  I'm trying to kick my kid off the TV so I can fire up the 5700XT.

I was never able to get the hotspot feature to function properly with Windows native options from the OS.  I instead, installed Connectify, for my hotspot use needs.  Does exactly what you're saying, starts it up automatically on startup.  Hassle free, and ad free hotspot.

9 minutes ago, UltraMega said:

The goal here is to make titles more visible, which is really important IMO. The rest of the changes are preferential, but titles need to have enough room to be able to get the point of the title/headline across. 

What about just keeping it simple?

Leave the titles part as is the way it is now, allowing upwards of 2 lines of text.

Move OP down 1 line below the title (which I believe is "as is" now).
Force "Last" to be 1 line below "OP" instead of even allowing it on the same line as OP (since sometimes it splits anyway)

Abbreviate the date to be numerical so it fits without going down yet another line.

This would force that section to stay within 3-4 lines of text at most, and it'd have everything requested visible as best as possible.

The voltage section of Polaris BIOS editor doesn't really work on most cards, just as a heads up.  Polaris generally responds well to an increase in the TDP section.  In other words, giving it a positive power limit like setting the slider to +50% in MSI Afterburner.

I have a pair of Asus 8GB cards that are BIOS flashed to 1400c / 2050m and they run rock solid there.  And then I have a cranky MSI 8GB card that I always seem to brick it with a bad BIOS flash.  

21 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Fair point, I will see about adjusting that

Unless you've already fixed it, its in line correctly for me.  Maybe it has something to do with the table width?

By the way, the change looks pretty good so far.  I do appreciate the "OP" and "Last poster" names being right up front like that.  Very nice addition there.