Fluxmaven

That's all you had to say. Consider it done. With that said, It looks like it's time to find my next victim.

Well I was beating you before you added the 3060 to the mix so the point still stands. Not sure what your health issues have to do with us bantering during foldathons. I've never made fun of your for your health or ability to work on rigs. If you don't want me to single you out anymore, that's fine I won't. YOU have encouraged this by by tagging me and saying things like "I hope you die under a bridge hehe". I'll never mention you again. However, if you want to speak my name don't cry when I reply.

Most of the cards have waterblocks and thus run very cool so they stay boosted fairly high. Sometimes I'll sprinkle on +20 or so core just to bump it up to a number I like, but I want it to be stable so I don't go crazy on OC for folding. As you have found out the hard way, a handful of power limited older gen cards will still beat a single top dawg card OC or not.

Definitely worth playing around with. You can shave a decent amount of power off without killing PPD too much. I power limit most of my cards because it gets unbearably hot in the office otherwise.

I wanted you to think you had a chance... It's more fun when I give you a big lead then reel you in

I've been saying that since launch. They are great cards that perform well with great power efficiency. The problem was always the outlandish pricing. I managed to grab an open box 4070 Ti for $585 when Microcenter got flooded with returns at launch. People quickly figured out nobody would pay scalper prices for them. If the new 4070 Ti Super was $650, I'd be on my way to Microcenter right now to buy one to boost my PPD for the current Folding@home competition.

I am a little disappointed that the 4070 Ti S performs closer to the outgoing 70 Ti than the 4080 seeing as it got bumped up to AD103. I still think that if you need the feature set of team green it's a decent option for a card that you won't need to replace in a year or two. That extra 4GB of VRAM on a 256MB bus are going to keep the card relevant longer especially at higher resolutions.

By just the usual amount unless I get lost and end up at Microcenter. That streaming rig I just built has an Intel Arc card which unfortunately doesn't support folding.

Didn't really think about the start time so I only had one rig online this morning. Got held up at work so a bit late to getting the other rigs fired up, but I should start putting real points on the board shortly.

Every point counts we will appreciate anything you're able to contribute

So are you actually going to fold this time?

So I finally got around to taking my bedroom PC apart so I could grab the 10850K and motherboard for the streaming PC. NudeCNC Ncore V1 direct die block I got from the homie Avacado Cooling consists of an Alphacool slim 240mm with a pair of Phanteks T30s, PrimoChill CTR D5 reservoir with Koolance D5 Vario sleeved with the first two pieces of paracord I found lol. Tygon R-3400 black tubing, IDK what the clear tubing is just found it in the tubing pile , Mayhems UV blue coolant, and Monsoon free center compression fittings. Couple Noctua A12x15's as intakes and a Thermalright TL-9015B exhaust wrap up the cooling components. I routed the tubing in this way to make it easy to swap RAM and GPU. Originally I was going to mount the external cooling under the desk, but I noticed while using the travel rig as a stand in, there was this corner of the desk that was basically wasted space. Strapping the cooling setup to the back of the case fills in this space nicely. Always gotta take a couple a e s t h e t i c photos Getting everything set back up. The bamboo in the window had been making a comeback but I had the window open for folding, and forgot to close it... Then it got super cold in the office... I think it's finally time to give up on it.

I think the 7600XT will sell well just because it's the cheapest 16GB card. Going over to team green it's a pretty big price jump to step up to that 16GB 4060ti. Budget gamers (the people interested in XX60 level cards) aren't going to spend $500 on a single component... Nvidia already realized this and dropped that 4060ti to $450 (which is still too much). Give it a couple months for 4070ti supers to actually be in stock and AMD to be forced to drop prices. Either would be a decent upgrade.

The price to performance of the higher end cards is at least heading in the right direction... Being Nvidia I don't plan to see them in stock anytime soon. Since they are discontinuing the existing 4070ti and 4080, I'm sure the production of the new cards will be suspiciously low until they clear out all of the existing inventory. If they had full shelves of these new Super variants, that would force them to discount the old cards.

I got the notification that Revolution was out. I did install and play through the first couple chambers just to check it out and it looks good so far. I'll sit down and play through it soon.

A lot of it is stuff I bought just for hwbot. Problem is I don't have time to sit around benching all day. I run the stuff in the one category of the competition that's happening at the time, then it goes on the shelf. Now that I have my stuff better organized I plan on going through and benching more. Just been kinda burnt out on computer stuff lately.

I look computer components as a sunk cost in entertainment. I'd get more hours of enjoyment from a 4090 than a ticket to a Taylor Swift concert for the same cost. Granted I wouldn't enjoy one of her shows if it were $20 lol. Eventually I'll probably get tired of the hobby and sell everything off for cheap, but at that point I'll have had years of enjoyment from everything.

Back when I was married and only allowed to have one PC, I'd sell a card to offset upgrading to the next card... Now that I'm divorced I have several PCs and the old card gets trickled down to the other systems in the house when I upgrade the main rig. After rotating out of use, cards get stuck in the inventory of stuff for HWBOT comps that I barely ever compete in. At last check I have 20 Nvidia, 11 AMD, and 1 Intel Arc GPUs. I grossly overpaid for my 3090 when I "won" the chance to buy it in a Newegg shuffle back in the GPU craziness, but I sold a few of my other cards for a profit to make up for it.

Considering their lack of feature parity I don't see how AMD gets off pricing their second rate cards as high as they do. The 7900XTX is an alright card if you just look at raw raster. Being a gen behind on RT and upscaling tech while just slotting into the price bracket between a 4070ti and 4080 just seems outright lazy. I just wish they would undercut Nvidia or actually step up and make a 4090 level card.

That was another tangent I was going to go down, but figured I'd typed enough the other day A lot of things just work better/only work on Nvidia. My roommate does 3D modeling and the plugins he uses only work on Nvidia. There are some newer options that support AMD but that involves paying for and then learning a different software which isn't really feasible. When the current gen of cards was coming out I was thinking he'd at least be able to grab a 7900XTX for his VR rig... In typical AMD fashion that comes with 6 months of waiting on driver fixes. Not something that sit's well when you drop $1000+ on a new card. I personally enjoy donating resources to the Folding@home project and Nvidia is just head and shoulders above in that department. It'll be a while before the dynamic at the high end shifts. AMD has been content with letting Nvidia dominate the upper end of the market. If Arc can get more traction and steal some of that lower to midrange market, AMD will have to step up in some way. That could just be with prices. But they might decide to get serious and make something special.

The problem is at this point people have proved that they will pay for it. Pascal was the last gen that made sense price wise. Turing came along with a big price hike and barely any raw performance uplift and just a huge focus on ray tracing and various software add ons that nobody asked for. Back then we had one of the mining booms which kept the prices sky high all the way until Ampere came along with that cute promise of buying 2080ti perfomance for $500. A handful of lucky people got in on an original MSRP 3070 or 3080. Most people got shafted because they waited and waited and waited to upgrade. Just for another mining boom paired with a global pandemic to make affordable GPUs a distant dream. Now, big surprise they follow that up with the most mis-priced lineup of cards ever. While people * and moan constantly about how much they hate them, they still keep buying it all up. Mostly because you had a bunch of people still holding on to those Pascal cards or even Maxwell waiting for a time when a decently priced card would come along and it just never did. As for the VRAM thing, if we get more, it'll be in the form of a new $3000 Titan. They don't like doubling flagship VRAM without making some comically priced "best card in the universe". I think the lower tier cards will continue to get bumped up. I can see 12GB as the new minimum offering with more cards in the 16, 20, and 24GB range. I just don't see them giving us a 48GB 5090 as a direct replacement for the 4090 at the same price level. They should, but I'm sure they will find a way to make it a more expensive product. Then serving up the cut down version at still absurd prices. AMD should have priced more aggressivly to undercut Nvidia's poor pricing/naming this gen, but they are happy to just sell what they sell of their also overpriced cards.

I really doubt they will give us more than 24GB anytime soon. Wouldn't want to compete with their own professional GPUs. Also with how hard they push DLSS and frame gen I think it's safe to say they will keep relying on software magic VS give us stronger hardware. I totally understand cutting down specs for lower tier cards, but It's REALLY annoying how hard they start gimping their lineup starting with the XX80 SKU's. When Amphere was first announced I was really hoping for a 20GB 3080. I ended up buying a 3090 because I was wanting it for my 4K OLED and wasn't going to buy a 10GB "high end" GPU. Interestingly the 4070 Ti Super is getting upgraded to 16GB of VRAM on a 256 bit bus. If they just replace the current 4070 Ti that would probably be the best value Nvidia card on the market. Knowing them, they will sell it along side the current cards and jack the price up.

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