Trying to improve a Tesla M40

[Bastiaan_NL]

3 minutes ago, Avacado said:

Ok, I'll admit it. What is going on here is mindblowingly cool. It also makes me feel quite stoopid. This is about 5 levels above my knowledge base. 

I 100% agree with this!

Thanks @emci, @neko10082 and everyone else contributing to this project! It's so cool to see this growing  

 

@emci Stay safe out there..

[ArchStanton]

1 minute ago, Avacado said:

This is about 5 levels above my knowledge base. 

and about 5² levels above my "comfortable attempting this" zone, but it is very interesting to follow along while eating my .

[Avacado]

I have 6 dead Tesla M40's that I would be willing to ship to any of you guys to practice on if that would help. @emci @neko10082

 

My country might not be supporting you with enough troops, but I can drown you in practice GPUs, blower fans and a waterblock. 

Edited February 23, 2022 by Avacado

[damric]

43 minutes ago, Avacado said:

Ok, I'll admit it. What is going on here is mindblowingly cool. It also makes me feel quite stoopid. This is about 5 levels above my knowledge base. 

I was happy to see the electrical schematic, but my soldering days are way behind me. I don't have the steady hands I used to as a teenager and my 20s.

[ENTERPRISE]

2 hours ago, Avacado said:

Ok, I'll admit it. What is going on here is mindblowingly cool. It also makes me feel quite stoopid. This is about 5 levels above my knowledge base. 

You are not alone lol.

[neko10082]

15 hours ago, emci said:

I found info about changing DeviceID in Windows until the next system boot. It really change DeviceID but I didn't have time to test it with non-modified drivers. If it works fine we could do an automatic replacement of registry keys at system boot.

 

windows:spoof_hardware_identifiers [Wizardry and Steamworks]

GRIMORE.ORG

 

 

English： I tried this method last night. It does change the Device ID information that is recognized by the system. It can cheat the installation of unmodified driver software directly, but the system will not load into M40 correctly after installing the driver, because the registry modified information will be restored after installing the driver, and it will not load into the graphics card correctly when I modify it again. No GPU is also prompted in the nvida control panel.

 

Chinese： 我昨晚对这个方法进行了尝试，这个操作确实会改变系统所识别到的 Device ID 信息，它可以骗过未修改驱动软件直接进行安装，但安装完驱动后系统不会正确加载到M40，因为安装驱动后对注册表修改的信息会还原，当我重新修改后也不会正确加载到显卡，在nvida控制面板中也提示无gpu。

[neko10082]

10 hours ago, Avacado said:

Ok, I'll admit it. What is going on here is mindblowingly cool. It also makes me feel quite stoopid. This is about 5 levels above my knowledge base. 

English： Don't say that, you're also great, but everyone's good at something different

Chinese： 别这么说，你同样也很棒，只是每个人擅长的东西不一样

[neko10082]

9 hours ago, ArchStanton said:

and about 5² levels above my "comfortable attempting this" zone, but it is very interesting to follow along while eating my .

Although I can't fully understand what you mean, can I explain it to "吃瓜群众" in Chinese? " "吃瓜群众" meant "give me tea" or "watch the fun"

 

chinese：虽然我不能完全理解你整句话的意思，但我能把它解释为“吃瓜群众“用的中文吗。”吃瓜群众” 意思是“看热闹”

 

[ArchStanton]

4 minutes ago, neko10082 said:

Although I can't fully understand what you mean, can I explain it to "吃瓜群众" in Chinese? " "吃瓜群众" meant "give me tea" or "watch the fun"

Either is a reasonable approximation.  = popcorn.  Many Americans, myself included, associate the eating the eating of popcorn with watching a movie, or more generally with being entertained.  While the finer points of this discussion exceed my technical prowess, I have found it highly enjoyable and entertaining to observe from the shadows, to which I will now return .

[neko10082]

11 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

Either is a reasonable approximation.  = popcorn.  Many Americans, myself included, associate the eating the eating of popcorn with watching a movie, or more generally with being entertained.  While the finer points of this discussion exceed my technical prowess, I have found it highly enjoyable and entertaining to observe from the shadows, to which I will now return .

English： Haha, I thought this Emoji meant French fries at first, and now I fully understand it. In China, popcorn is also associated with entertainment or watching movies, but our tradition is to eat watermelon and peanuts, so you will see that the expression in my last reply is that a person or a group of people are eating watermelon

 Chinese： 哈哈 ，我开始以为这个Emoji是薯条的意思，现在我完全明白了。在中国爆米花也与娱乐或者看电影联系起来，不过我们的传统是用吃西瓜以及吃花生米，所以你会看到我上一个回复里面的表情是一个人或者你群人在吃西瓜

[neko10082]

10 hours ago, Avacado said:

I have 6 dead Tesla M40's that I would be willing to ship to any of you guys to practice on if that would help. @emci @neko10082

 

My country might not be supporting you with enough troops, but I can drown you in practice GPUs, blower fans and a waterblock. 

English： Thank you very much for your help. At present, I live in China. If you ship the graphics card to me, it may cost a high freight, which may cost $50 or more? Probably. However, I'd be happy to try to help you repair them. I now have two m40, one of which is helping me with the game and the other is used for project research. In China, due to mining（ETH）, the price of graphics card is very high, and the 3060ti with the highest cost performance has increased from the recommended retail price of 2499RMB (395USD) to 5699RMB (900USD)

 

Chinese： 非常感谢你的帮助，目前我居住在中国，你把显卡运送给我可能会产生很高的运费，可能需要50美元或者更高？大概。不过，我很乐意尝试帮你去修复它们。我现在有两张M40，其中一张在帮助我进行游戏，另一张则用于项目研究。在中国因为挖矿 ETH的关系，显卡价格非常高，其中性价比最高的3060ti从建议零售价从2499人民币 （395美元）升高到5699RMB（900美元）

[Avacado]

11 hours ago, neko10082 said:

English： Thank you very much for your help. At present, I live in China. If you ship the graphics card to me, it may cost a high freight, which may cost $50 or more? Probably. However, I'd be happy to try to help you repair them. I now have two m40, one of which is helping me with the game and the other is used for project research. In China, due to mining（ETH）, the price of graphics card is very high, and the 3060ti with the highest cost performance has increased from the recommended retail price of 2499RMB (395USD) to 5699RMB (900USD)

 

Chinese： 非常感谢你的帮助，目前我居住在中国，你把显卡运送给我可能会产生很高的运费，可能需要50美元或者更高？大概。不过，我很乐意尝试帮你去修复它们。我现在有两张M40，其中一张在帮助我进行游戏，另一张则用于项目研究。在中国因为挖矿 ETH的关系，显卡价格非常高，其中性价比最高的3060ti从建议零售价从2499人民币 （395美元）升高到5699RMB（900美元）

Thank you, but I don't have any solder station or repair capability yet. I can't believe the cost of a 3060Ti there. Could still see what the costs to ship would be anyway. 

[Avacado]

Thought this might help. Looks like someone on OCN figured this out with the help of GTX 970 drivers.  Sharing. 

 

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WWW.OVERCLOCK.NET

 

[Chris]

so you can re-program it with firmware in SPI programmer, is that correct?

If so can you locate for me where the location of the eeprom chip on the board because i have a toolkit that can overwrite the bios

Or someone has a modified M6000 24GB BIOS, i really appreciate it

[emci]

10 hours ago, Chris said:

so you can re-program it with firmware in SPI programmer, is that correct?

If so can you locate for me where the location of the eeprom chip on the board because i have a toolkit that can overwrite the bios

Or someone has a modified M6000 24GB BIOS, i really appreciate it

 

[Chris]

yeah winbond w25x40a eeprom

never though they are going the 'headache' design 

which spi programmer did you use because im not sure CH341A clip could make a connection with it

Edited March 15, 2022 by Chris

[emci]

I soldered wires and then connect programmer to it

[Chris]

of all chips design and yet they chose 'wson' as one, i hate it so much...

but thanks for the info 

 

[Chris]

ok i just came back few days, first i did soldered the wire to the gpu unfortunately i broke the SMD while doing it, however i got warranty covered for so they replaced it for me.

so i decided to overrided it with nvflash:

after few attempts i managed to use 24GB variant on M40

^ it's still showing mem size of original M40

however the the control panel detects it as 24GB.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Chris

[ENTERPRISE]

1 hour ago, Chris said:

ok i just came back few days, first i did soldered the wire to the gpu unfortunately i broke the SMD while doing it, however i got warranty covered for so they replaced it for me.

so i decided to overrided it with nvflash:

after few attempts i managed to use 24GB variant on M40

^ it's still showing mem size of original M40

however the the control panel detects it as 24GB.

Nice ! Well-done

[Chris]

but still i want to try the M6000 24GB bios one, is there a specific nvflash can help you with that?

[Tódor]

Всем привет и @emci в частности
Этот тред живой или нет?

Я хочу поделиться тонной вопросов и информации, которую я лично откапывал долгое время

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Hello everyone and @emci in particular
Is this thread alive or not?

I want to share a ton of questions and information that I personally have been digging up for a long time

[damric]

3 hours ago, Tódor said:

Всем привет и @emci в частности
Этот тред живой или нет?

Я хочу поделиться тонной вопросов и информации, которую я лично откапывал долгое время

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Hello everyone and @emci in particular
Is this thread alive or not?

I want to share a ton of questions and information that I personally have been digging up for a long time

you made it alive. what would you like to know?

[Tódor]

Original RU text:
Ничего себе, тут есть живые 
Я Режиссёр & DIT/Colorist из Украины
Работаю с множеством профессионального софта по типу Davinchi Resolve / Premier Pro / C4D etc.
После новостей о мобилизации молодёжи 20+ лет на войну я собрал себе пк на Intel QTJ1 (i9-9900K) и RX470 4gb + Tesla M40 24gb, чтобы работать с 3D и цветом как фрилансер

 

Мне очень нравится всё что касается самодельного решения проблем и создания чего-то своего
Сейчас начал изучать тему графических адаптеров Nvidia Tesla и понял, что тут есть несколько проблем для профи:

1) Davinci Resolve 19 не воспринимает видеопамять Nvidia Tesla M40 24gb и выдаёт ошибку "Переполненной Видеопамяти"

2) Работа с графикой процессоров Intel для вывода изображения

 

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English text:

Wow, there are live ones here

I am a Director & DIT/Colorist from Ukraine
I work with a lot of professional software like Davinchi Resolve / Premier Pro / C4D etc.
After the news about the mobilization of young people aged 20+ for war, I assembled a PC on Intel QTJ1 (i9-9900K) and RX470 4gb + Tesla M40 24gb to work with 3D and color as a freelancer

 

I really like everything that concerns homemade problem solving and creating something of my own
Now I started studying the topic of Nvidia Tesla graphic adapters and realized that there are several problems for professionals:

 

1) Davinci Resolve 19 does not recognize the video memory of Nvidia Tesla M40 24gb and gives an error "Overflowing video memory"

2) Working with Intel processor graphics for image output

 

[Tódor]

Использую карту Tesla M40 24gb с мануально установленным драйвером от Nvidia Quadro M6000 24gb из пакета Nvidia Studio Driver 566.03

Карта определяется как Nvidia Quadro M6000, но в большинстве программ как Nvidia Tesla M40
Сейчас я хочу прошить биос от видеокарты Nvidia Quadro M6000 24gb, чтобы иметь подпись как у Quadro и Davinci Resolve не выдавал ошибку видеопамяти

Хотел спросить у @emci напрямую про прошивку биоса при помощи программатора CH341 и комплектной прищепки

Если всё пройдёт удачно и я смогу раскрыть все возможности этой карты, то я планирую запускать ютуб проект про всё от энтузиастов и для энтузиастов
Как минимум сделать первое правильное видео про системы охлаждения для карт TESLA на всём ютубе с тестами температур и так далее

Фото моей TESLA M40 с охлаждением от EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
Если отпиливать маленький кусочек на левом боку кожуха, то крепление карты встаёт как родное! (фото №2)

Термопаста – Honeywell PTM7950

Термопрокладка – Laird 607

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I use Tesla M40 24gb card with manually installed driver from Nvidia Quadro M6000 24gb from Nvidia Studio Driver 566.03 package

The card is detected as Nvidia Quadro M6000, but in most programs as Nvidia Tesla M40
Now I want to flash the BIOS from the Nvidia Quadro M6000 24gb video card, so that I have a signature like Quadro and Davinci Resolve does not give a video memory error

I wanted to ask @emci directly about flashing the BIOS using the CH341 programmer and the included clip

 

If everything goes well and I can reveal all the capabilities of this card, then I plan to launch a YouTube project about everything from enthusiasts and for enthusiasts
At least make the first correct video about cooling systems for TESLA cards on the whole YouTube with temperature tests and so on more

 

Photo of my TESLA M40 with cooling from EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
If you saw off a small piece on the left side of the casing, the card mount fits like a native one! (photo #2)

Thermal paste – Honeywell PTM7950

Thermal pad – Laird 607