Ai Crystal build log/parts list/gallery

[neurotix]

Here's my build log for the house's main rig, Ai Crystal. Usually kept on 24/7.

 

Primary use case scenario: Linux file server

 

Secondary use case scenarios, in order of importance:

- Folding rig (it costs around $40 a month to fold 24/7, and I had no clue when I got my 4090 how good it would be at folding) NO LONGER FOLDING, IT KILLED MY 4090

- Graphic design rig using GIMP, which I can do while folding and having the file server online IF I turn my GPU OC off

- Benching rig in Windows for HWBOT

- Gaming rig, waiting on expansions for Forza Horizon 5

 

No pictures of the process here, but you can see the original build process for my rig here:

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Until the end of last year, the rig was running a ROG Crosshair VIII Hero, Ryzen 9 3900x, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360mm AIO cooler, G.skill Flare X DDR4 3200 cas 14 @ 3800MHz 16-16-16-16-32-50 1T GDM on, and 2x EVGA FTW3 GTX 1080ti in HB SLI. Here is the full parts list for it now.

 

Ryzen R9 7900X3D PBO on, max boost I've seen is 5650MHz on cores 7&8 after giving it a +0.075v over voltage offset

ASUS ROG Strix X670-E Gaming

G.skill Flare X 5 DDR5 B-Die, 6000MHz 36-36-36-96 OC'ed to 6200MHz 30-36-36-36-108 1T GDM on

MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 3135/12210MHz

Corsair H150i RGB Pro XT w/ Prolimatech PK3-Nano (trying Kryonaut extreme tomorrow)

Samsung 970 Evo 512GB boot drive, partitioned to give 100GB to Linux and the rest to Windows

WD Black 2TB

WD Blue 4TB

WD Blue 6TB

Case is anidees Ai Crystal AR3 Midtower

Fan and RGB controller is the anidees one that came with the case

Fans are 7x anidees AI AUREOLA v3 RGB fans

2x anidees RGB light strips, 2x Phanteks RGB light strips

Power Supply Cooler Master V1000 circa 2013 (Seasonic unit 80+ Gold)

 

I think that's everything for the box.

 

Accessories:

Monitor Acer EI342CKR Pbmiippx Curved 3440x1440p 144Hz FreeSync HDR 400 (supposedly) Ultrawide

Logitech G332 Headset

Logitech Z2300 Circa 2007 2.1 THX certified speakers. 120w 8" subwoofer, two 40w Satellites

Cooler Master Mastermouse RGB

Utechsmart "RGB" large cloth mousepad (Amazon)

 

Keyboards:

E-Yooso Z-88 modded, stock had Outemu Blue switches. Modded to Kailh Box Whites, WASD blue o-rings, blue and white PBT keycaps, stabilizers clipped and lubed, case packed with thin crafters foam to give it more weight, has Doraemon stickers (main board) It's RGB as well.

 

Glorious GMMK v2 fullsize, Kailh Box Jades, WASD blue o-rings, custom white plastidip and plastidip pearlizer layer on top, genuine Filco Sakura keycaps, stabilizers clipped and lubed, case packed with thin crafters foam, put a small flat metal weight inside.

 

I think that's everything. Now for the gallery. While doing some wire management last night, I took a lot of photos of my rig off.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 10 by neurotix

[neurotix]

 

Edited March 26 by neurotix

[damric]

I thought you had a different motherboard. Looks cool.

[neurotix]

I did, I had the Asus ROG Crosshair X670-E Hero that was like $650 but then we returned it because it had HUGE overkill VRM heatsinks as well as M.2 heatsinks, even my current H150i probably wouldn't fit with how big the heatsinks were, and the M.2 heatsinks might have made it really hard to get my very large GPU out. So we returned it and got our money back. Otherwise, there's still $129 for the RAM on a credit card that needs to be paid, but after this pay period our savings balance will be made up for and then some, so it's all done and paid for now and we replenished what we spent.

 

I have the Asus ROG Strix X670-E Gaming and it's pretty great, got full Digi+VRM control, and the Asus boards have a glitch with tREFI that if you set that timing (they call it "Refresh Interval" in the BIOS) to 65535 it vastly improves memory bandwidth and latency. It's cool having 90GB/sec read, 93GB/sec write, and 82GB/sec copy with 60.6ns latency, the last bios update I just did last week lowered my latency by quite a bit (over 1ns).

[neurotix]

Oh, only bad part of this build: POST takes like 45 seconds and it trains the memory for about 30 seconds with a "15" post code and yellow led lit.

 

Yeah, they really need to fix that. Flux has a 7700x and ROG board and also complained about this issue.

 

Since I sometimes reboot between Windows and Linux, mostly to set my LED lighting in Windows, this really sucks.

Edited March 27 by neurotix

[Sir Beregond]

Man sometimes I forget how massive the 4090's really are. Its funny to see the ratio of where the PCB ends and how massive the cooler is in both how many slots and length.

 

Anyway, looks great.

[UltraMega]

Neat lookin case, I like the color scheme of the lights too. Only suggestion would be to move the PCIe power cables so they come out of the same spot as the 24 pin. Looks a little neater that way with how huge the 4090 is, and it helps hold up the card a little bit as well. 

 

EX:

[neurotix]

 

More benches next week so I show up in the widget for the month on the front page

 

3dmark11 really likes 3d V-Cache.

[neurotix]

 

So as you can see, wife didn't listen and while cleaning and remounting the water block she thought it would be a good idea to go over the Corsair logo on the radiator with alcohol pads and now it's not Corsair, it's Corsaip

 

Ordered a new unit, I think this one is defective anyway because of the temps being so much higher than my GPU is while folding. Also some more kryonaut extreme, which we put on the other day and compared to PK-3 Nano it lowered temps by 4c folding and 10c in Cinebench r23.

[neurotix]

So I've been messing with my machine, and I have PBO turned on, but the max boost clock of my processor is 5650MHz which before today, I had not seen. The highest I'd seen was 5450MHz. This is with PBO Enabled, Scalar of 10x and +200 clock speed. What I realized is that my voltage on auto, which gives the chip around 1.049v idle according to the bios and 1.3v under load (roughly) so I added a positive voltage offset of +0.025, which caused a slight boost in clocks, and I hit 5500. So I added more voltage first trying +0.050 and then seeing it hit 5650MHz on core 8. I added more and settled on 0.075v and have seen cores 7 and 8 hit 5650MHz. I tested this in 3dmark Vantage Extreme, and with no added voltage I did 130k, with 0.050v I did 132k, and with 0.075v I did 134k. I didn't see it hit more than 5525MHz on my Afterburner OSD, but it could have been reaching it's max boost speed and Afterburner just didn't show it. I also had the system in "Ryzen High Performance" power preset as opposed to "Ryzen Balanced", which focuses the scheduler to park cores in the 2nd faster CCD for better performance from the V-Cache CCD.

 

I'm pretty happy. I also did these:

 

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neurotix`s Cinebench - R20 score: 10440 cb with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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neurotix`s Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate score: 27185 cb with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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[neurotix]

 

Picture of my rig with my GMMK instead of my E-Yooso Z-88.

 

Also benched the processor.

 

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neurotix`s y-cruncher - Pi-1b score: 19sec 196ms with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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neurotix`s GPUPI for CPU - 1B score: 59sec 350ms with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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neurotix`s HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k score: 33.7 fps with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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The Ryzen 9 7900X3D @ 4905MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k...

 

Unfortunately, since last week I have encountered a problem with my 7900X3D, for some reason the second CCD won't boost past 5100MHz or so on High Performance power plan, whereas last week it was sitting at 5325 all core minimum and hitting 5525 then going back down etc. Tried everything including reinstalling win10 and all my programs, nothing has worked and I don't know why.

 

The 2nd CCD boosting high is the difference between 60k 3dm11 performance, whereas last week before this started I was doing 70k which is actually worth submitting.

 

I think I will probably have to wait for a fix from Asus/AMD but basically Balanced power plan would park cores in CCD2 and focus on boosting CCD1 with the V-Cache. Changing it to high performance power plan clocked down the first CCD with V-Cache, and I'd see very high boosting on CCD2. For some reason now in high performance power plan my first CCD sits at 4950MHz and the 2nd one sits with all cores at 5100MHz and they don't boost past that.

 

Any help appreciated. @damric

[damric]

14 minutes ago, neurotix said:

 

Picture of my rig with my GMMK instead of my E-Yooso Z-88.

 

Also benched the processor.

 

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neurotix`s y-cruncher - Pi-1b score: 19sec 196ms with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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The Ryzen 9 7900X3D @ 4921.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the y-cruncher - Pi-1b benchmark...

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neurotix`s GPUPI for CPU - 1B score: 59sec 350ms with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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The Ryzen 9 7900X3D @ 4999.8MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the GPUPI for CPU - 1B benchmark...

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neurotix`s HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k score: 33.7 fps with a Ryzen 9 7900X3D

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The Ryzen 9 7900X3D @ 4905MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 4k...

 

Unfortunately, since last week I have encountered a problem with my 7900X3D, for some reason the second CCD won't boost past 5100MHz or so on High Performance power plan, whereas last week it was sitting at 5325 all core minimum and hitting 5525 then going back down etc. Tried everything including reinstalling win10 and all my programs, nothing has worked and I don't know why.

 

The 2nd CCD boosting high is the difference between 60k 3dm11 performance, whereas last week before this started I was doing 70k which is actually worth submitting.

 

I think I will probably have to wait for a fix from Asus/AMD but basically Balanced power plan would park cores in CCD2 and focus on boosting CCD1 with the V-Cache. Changing it to high performance power plan clocked down the first CCD with V-Cache, and I'd see very high boosting on CCD2. For some reason now in high performance power plan my first CCD sits at 4950MHz and the 2nd one sits with all cores at 5100MHz and they don't boost past that.

 

Any help appreciated. @damric

I haven't played around with AM5. The help you seek is probably @ir_cow as he has tested quite a bit of AM5

[neurotix]

Yeah I was getting really good scores in 3dmark11 performance, 3dmark Vantage Extreme (both give globals) and was getting decent scores in 06 and 05 as well.

 

Now for some reason, probably the AMD 3D V-Cache optimizer service that gets installed by the chipset driver, my second CCD cores won't boost like they were.

 

Thanks Luke.

Edited April 7 by neurotix

[damric]

4 minutes ago, neurotix said:

Yeah I was getting really good scores in 3dmark11 performance, 3dmark Vantage Extreme (both give globals) and was getting decent scores in 06 and 05 as well.

 

Now for some reason, probably the AMD 3D V-Cache optimizer service that gets installed by the chipset driver, my second CCD cores won't boost like they were.

 

Thanks Luke.

There just isn't a huge knowledge base for those 3D AM5 CPUs yet. I really have no idea. Michele has the 5800X3D but that thing is locked down hard on her board.

[neurotix]

1 hour ago, damric said:

There just isn't a huge knowledge base for those 3D AM5 CPUs yet. I really have no idea. Michele has the 5800X3D but that thing is locked down hard on her board.

Yeah I know, I even uninstalled the 3D V-Cache services and tried and it still didn't boost the 2nd CCD high.

 

I really loved this setup and the ability to toggle the V-Cache cores for gaming (Forza Horizon 5 benefits greatly) and then toggle to the 2nd CCD and see boosts of 5.5Ghz, now its like its stuck in Balanced power plan or something.

 

This was working that way when I still had the Ryzen Balanced and Ryzen High Performance power plans on the same Win10 install that had my 3900x, which the chipset driver installed a long time ago. I've tried looking for an installer that would reinstall those power plans and found something on Google Drive but link was dead. Enabled the Ultimate Performance power plan and that didn't work either. Id you manage to dig up a link or shell script that can add the Ryzen power plans back, let me know

 

I think I'll have to wait for a new bios/AGESA and possibly newer chipset drivers to fix it. I might contact AMD support and Asus over this issue. So frustrating, I did 70k in 3dm11 performance and 134k in Vantage Extreme.

[neurotix]

So I found a bunch of different power plans. One was a custom one from OCN that someone made and it included like 5 but none of them helped. However, I found this:

 

GitHub - neon-dev/Ryzen-Optimized-Power-Plan: Further optimized version of 1usmus' great power plan (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/1usmus-power-plan-for-amd-ryzen-new-developments/)

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Further optimized version of 1usmus' great power plan...

 

@Sir Beregond , you might want to try this out. With this one on, my cores of my 2nd CCD were boosting to 5425MHz. And that was without a PBO offset of +200. I am going to test it more during this week, but I did this:

 

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neurotix`s 3DMark Vantage - Extreme score: 132362 marks with a GeForce RTX 4090

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The GeForce RTX 4090 @ 3105/1519MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark Vantage - Extreme benchmark. neurotixranks #47...

 

Unfortunately, the 2nd CCD cores still aren't boosting past 5000MHz in 3dmark11 Performance. I doubt they would in older benchmarks like 3dmark06 or 3dmark05. I believe the low resolution is the problem, the AMD 3d V-Cache service or the Windows scheduler is deciding because it's so low resource intensive now that it doesn't need to boost clocks. 3dmark Vantage Extreme runs at 1920x1200, which is where I was seeing boosts of 5425MHz across like 6 cores at once on the 2nd CCD.

Edited April 9 by neurotix

[neurotix]

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Edited April 9 by neurotix

[Sir Beregond]

19 hours ago, neurotix said:

So I found a bunch of different power plans. One was a custom one from OCN that someone made and it included like 5 but none of them helped. However, I found this:

 

GitHub - neon-dev/Ryzen-Optimized-Power-Plan: Further optimized version of 1usmus' great power plan (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/1usmus-power-plan-for-amd-ryzen-new-developments/)

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Further optimized version of 1usmus' great power plan...

 

@Sir Beregond , you might want to try this out. With this one on, my cores of my 2nd CCD were boosting to 5425MHz. And that was without a PBO offset of +200. I am going to test it more during this week, but I did this:

 

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neurotix`s 3DMark Vantage - Extreme score: 132362 marks with a GeForce RTX 4090

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The GeForce RTX 4090 @ 3105/1519MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark Vantage - Extreme benchmark. neurotixranks #47...

 

Unfortunately, the 2nd CCD cores still aren't boosting past 5000MHz in 3dmark11 Performance. I doubt they would in older benchmarks like 3dmark06 or 3dmark05. I believe the low resolution is the problem, the AMD 3d V-Cache service or the Windows scheduler is deciding because it's so low resource intensive now that it doesn't need to boost clocks. 3dmark Vantage Extreme runs at 1920x1200, which is where I was seeing boosts of 5425MHz across like 6 cores at once on the 2nd CCD.

Interesting, will check it out for my 5900X.

[neurotix]

Bad news:

 

Yesterday night, my rig started not waking up from monitor sleep while folding. My monitor would just say no signal. I tried with folding not running, same issue. It is freezing in games in Windows.

 

I'm afraid folding has killed my beloved 4090 Gaming X Trio, but it's done 2.3 billion points for the team. We've tried a lot of things and the issue persists. This is bizarre as I once folded on an OC'ed HD 6870 for a year straight 24/7 and got the badge for it on OCN. I've folded for months at a time on a ton of other cards and never had them die, but this really is probably the only reason/explanation for it.

 

Just realized there's a rally expansion for Forza Horizon 5 and was planning on playing it this week, I guess that's not happening.

 

Anyway TL;DR: folding has appeared to kill my 4090, am getting a GT730 tomorrow to use temporarily for graphic design, MSI approved my RMA and they should have my card on Friday, we shipped it. From now on, will not be folding on my 4090 if they replace it, its just a waiting game now (2 weeks after they receive the card).

Edited April 10 by neurotix

[Sir Beregond]

2 hours ago, neurotix said:

Bad news:

 

Yesterday night, my rig started not waking up from monitor sleep while folding. My monitor would just say no signal. I tried with folding not running, same issue. It is freezing in games in Windows.

 

I'm afraid folding has killed my beloved 4090 Gaming X Trio, but it's done 2.3 billion points for the team. We've tried a lot of things and the issue persists. This is bizarre as I once folded on an OC'ed HD 6870 for a year straight 24/7 and got the badge for it on OCN. I've folded for months at a time on a ton of other cards and never had them die, but this really is probably the only reason/explanation for it.

 

Just realized there's a rally expansion for Forza Horizon 5 and was planning on playing it this week, I guess that's not happening.

 

Anyway TL;DR: folding has appeared to kill my 4090, am getting a GT730 tomorrow to use temporarily for graphic design, MSI approved my RMA and they should have my card on Friday, we shipped it. From now on, will not be folding on my 4090 if they replace it, its just a waiting game now (2 weeks after they receive the card).

Oof, very sorry to hear that.

[neurotix]

Don't have a picture, but I got a tiny little GT 1030 DDR4 as a temporary card until I get my 4090 back.

 

This thing has no idea what's waiting for it, as I am going to oc it and run Fire Strike Ultra and Time Spy Extreme on it.

 

Anyone remember good idea, bad idea from Animaniacs and Mr. Skullhead?

 

Not sure if I should do it or not but I'm bored usually and not into games atm and the thing might get me cups/hwboints, especially with my CPU, so..

Edited April 12 by neurotix