Build Log - Sir B's Black/White/Gold O11-Dynamic

[J7SC_Orion]

5 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

So...need to ask my fellow Dark Hero folks @ArchStanton, @J7SC_Orion: have you ever encountered an error 02 on the Q-code reader? 02 corresponds to "AP Initialization before microcode loading".

 

The Dark Hero seems to not be liking my 3070.

 

During boot, nothing gets displayed, the 3070 fans do start up, but once the code hits 02, the fans stop and nothing displays still. I can otherwise confirm that the 3070 works because although there are no Windows 8.1 drivers for it, plugging it into my current machine otherwise worked out fine and although only a windows generic display driver, it had no issues displaying. I am at a loss and wondering if I am screwed having sat on this motherboard for a year when the build went on hiatus.

 

...02 comes up briefly at bootup for a few seconds to allow to go into the bios (ie. via del) but it otherwise just cycles on and boots. Any LED colour codes underneath the Q code that stay on ?

[Sir Beregond]

5 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...02 comes up briefly at bootup for a few seconds to allow to go into the bios (ie. via del) but it otherwise just cycles on and boots. Any LED colour codes underneath the Q code that stay on ?

I'll have to double-check tomorrow. This was a quick setup on the box which has since been put away.

[ArchStanton]

Asus 02 can mean that you are sitting in the BIOS with the message instructing you to hit F1 to perform setup only you can't see it.  I have run into it before, and strangely what "fixed" it for me was unplugging the monitor's power cord, and then plugging it back in.  Could be HDMI or DP cable as well.  I know it can mean a host of other things as well.  This is the only circumstance I have encountered it in though.

[Sir Beregond]

3 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

Asus 02 can mean that you are sitting in the BIOS with the message instructing you to hit F1 to perform setup only you can't see it.  I have run into it before, and strangely what "fixed" it for me was unplugging the monitor's power cord, and then plugging it back in.  Could be HDMI or DP cable as well.  I know it can mean a host of other things as well.  This is the only circumstance I have encountered it in though.

I'll give that a shot tomorrow. Thanks!

[Sir Beregond]

So I was looking at the motherboard and notice it has an 8+4-pin EPS and I know they say not to use daisy chained PCI-E cables for Ampere cards. So now I have a conundrum to figure out. My PSU can only allow 1x 8-pin EPS and 2x PCI-E (daisy chained cables) or 2x 8-pin EPS and 1x PCI-E (daisy chained). Wondering if not having the additional 4-pin EPS maybe created the 02 error just doing some google searches. Will be setting up later this evening again to retry the monitor stuff.

[ArchStanton]

1 minute ago, Sir Beregond said:

not having the additional 4-pin EPS maybe created the 02 error

I certainly wouldn't think so.  I was under the impression the 4 pin was just there to supplement power delivery for people that bench at 250W+, but stranger things have happened.

[Sir Beregond]

8 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

I certainly wouldn't think so.  I was under the impression the 4 pin was just there to supplement power delivery for people that bench at 250W+, but stranger things have happened.

Yeah that's what I thought too. Still since 3070, daisy chain shouldn't be an issue I'd think, so maybe I'll try that in my troubleshooting tonight.

[ArchStanton]

Aye, I ran off to look it up. Unless ASUS has really done something squirrely the 4 pin shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Sir Beregond]

So may not get back to it today, but can confirm it booted into BIOS and displayed with my 980. But the 3070 worked on my 4790k rig (minus drivers since it's a W8.1 box). 

 

So really at a loss there.

[EHW Ai]

On 28/03/2022 at 08:34, Sir Beregond said:

That's very kind, thank you. I'd definitely be interested if you do!

 

On another note, regarding the green inside the old tubing I ripped out in the teardown this weekend, tried submerging it and soaking it for about an hour or so in some white vinegar, but the inside of the tube was still green. Still no idea what the green is. It's only on the tubes.

 

 If this is what you need, I've got it (sans nuts & bolts). Are you located in the States? 

 

[Sir Beregond]

1 minute ago, iamjanco said:

 

 If this is what you need, I've got it (sans nuts & bolts). Are you located in the States? 

 

That's exactly it and I am in the US (Colorado).

[EHW Ai]

^PM your mailing address and I'll send it your way.

[Sir Beregond]

14 minutes ago, iamjanco said:

^PM your mailing address and I'll send it your way.

That's very nice of you, thank you so much.

[J7SC_Orion]

4 hours ago, Sir Beregond said:

So may not get back to it today, but can confirm it booted into BIOS and displayed with my 980. But the 3070 worked on my 4790k rig (minus drivers since it's a W8.1 box). 

 

So really at a loss there.

 

...hard to tell from a distance / w/o seeing the machine, but try using the 980 Strix to set PCIe 3.0 for the GPU slot for now until you can mount the final boot drive etc.

[Sir Beregond]

4 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...hard to tell from a distance / w/o seeing the machine, but try using the 980 Strix to set PCIe 3.0 for the GPU slot for now until you can mount the final boot drive etc.

Yeah, I ended up not being home this evening, so will set it up again tomorrow. I had put everything back in the box (it was an on the box quick test).

Edited March 30, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[Sir Beregond]

So some news. I threw everything together again (minus a boot drive) and was still getting no display out and a code 02. 

 

I tried doing the different things like with the monitor power and swapping to hdmi and nothing. So here's what I did. I swapped PSUs and now it displays and posts into BIOS fine. Seems it doesn't like my AX850 for whatever reason.

 

There is a Best Buy literally walking distance from me so I stopped by and they had an RM1000X on sale. I bought it, plugged it in (including both EPS 8+4 pins, and separate 8-pin PCI-E cables) and now it works.

 

So no idea really. For whatever reason did not like the AX850.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[J7SC_Orion]

2 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

So some news. I threw everything together again (minus a boot drive) and was still getting no display out and a code 02. 

 

I tried doing the different things like with the monitor and nothing. So here's what I did. I swapped PSUs and now it displays and posts into BIOS fine. Seems it doesn't like my AX850 for whatever reason.

 

There was a Best Buy literally walking distance from me so I stopped by and they had an RM1000X on sale. I bought it, plugged it in (including both EPS 8+4 pins, and separate 8-pin PCI-E cables) and now it works.

 

So no idea really. For whatever reason did not like the AX850.

 

Good to hear. Also, looking at the typical efficiency curve of a PSU, 1 kw rating is a good thing, also with an eye on potential future upgrades.

[Sir Beregond]

29 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

Good to hear. Also, looking at the typical efficiency curve of a PSU, 1 kw rating is a good thing, also with an eye on potential future upgrades.

True, I was just hoping to avoid getting a new PSU for now since this new ATX 3.0 spec was announced. 

[J7SC_Orion]

26 minutes ago, Sir Beregond said:

True, I was just hoping to avoid getting a new PSU for now since this new ATX 3.0 spec was announced. 

 

...true, but you could also buy some shares in dongle makers 

 

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...true, but you could also buy some shares in dongle makers 

 

 

On another note, got into BIOS, can confirm the following:

 

BIOS version: 3003 x64

AGESA version: ComboPIv2_1180

 

So what should I be updating it to?

[ArchStanton]

Hmm, I guess to be on the safe side we better confirm the stepping of your CPU.  If it's a B0, then I think J7 and I would both agree on either 3501 or 3801.  For B2 there have been scattered reports of issues if the BIOS isn't 3904 or newer.

[Sir Beregond]

 

Gah. I was tearing down again and taking this air cooler off tore the cpu off the socket with it and I now have a bent pin. Grrr....

 

Correction - 2 bent pins.

 

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[ArchStanton]

Appropriately sized syringe is supposed to be the ideal tool for straightening them, sorry for the troubles .

[Sir Beregond]

22 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

Appropriately sized syringe is supposed to be the ideal tool for straightening them, sorry for the troubles .

Think I managed to fix with some stuff out of my iFixIt kits (tweezers and an almost razor blade type tool). 

 

Now I see what people mean when they say the coolers can pull up the CPU. Problem is once the retention arms came up, I didn't even have time to wiggle the cooler off, it pulled it right out just from the released tension. Was using a BeQuiet Pure Rock Slim 2 to test with, has retention arms on both sides.

 

All I can say is that this is making me appreciate the LGA style Intel uses way more since it has that retention bracket where yanking the chip out of the socket is impossible.

 

  

37 minutes ago, ArchStanton said:

Hmm, I guess to be on the safe side we better confirm the stepping of your CPU.  If it's a B0, then I think J7 and I would both agree on either 3501 or 3801.  For B2 there have been scattered reports of issues if the BIOS isn't 3904 or newer.

Where would I find that info? CPU-Z once I get Windows on it?

Edited March 31, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[J7SC_Orion]

1 hour ago, Sir Beregond said:

 

Gah. I was tearing down again and taking this air cooler off tore the cpu off the socket with it and I now have a bent pin. Grrr....

 

Correction - 2 bent pins.

 

 

 

 ...you sure are having a ton of fun with this build  ...all is well that ends well...

 

...re. bios, I asked to vendor to load the latest one when I picked up the mobo w/ the CPU already mounted. Said bios is 3501 and I never had any problems with it on my Win 10 Pro, so it is still there (I'm a bios luddite). If you are running Win 11, there is supposed to be a new one in May that deals with select TPM stuttering on some systems.

 

...re bent pins, check this out, including the writing utensil he uses to straighten the pins (and some tips in case you break one off)