Every AM5 Motherboard Compared

[Nikado7]

Nevermind this guy did it better than me.  

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit#gid=0

Edited February 9, 2023 by Nikado7

[J7SC_Orion]

42 minutes ago, Nikado7 said:

I've been working on this for a while this evening since I was really curious about all of them.  I tried to find every single one on the big 4 websites.  

 

It is view only so being that kinda makes it hard to add filters, just copy and paste it to your own sheet then you can do whatever you want.  Click Data, Add a Filter, (on your own sheet) and it'll make it all sortable.  

 

I'm still working on it but if I keel over from staring at the monitor this long, someone can pick up where I left off 

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0o8IHI-44hpMtVohT_WeRjLEYTSHNN77CaBcLW3jlg/edit?usp=sharing

 

That's really helpful !

...But in a way it is also 'disturbing', at least when it gets to comparing nice AM4 mobos with nice AM5. I have a couple of Asus CH8 X570, and the Asus CH8 Dark Hero in particular is superb from board to bios features. The closest thing in the AM5 670E costs about twice as much...never mind that the CH8 DarkHero itself is also $100 more than when I purchased it. 

[Nikado7]

4 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

That's really helpful !

...But in a way it is also 'disturbing', at least when it gets to comparing nice AM4 mobos with nice AM5. I have a couple of Asus CH8 X570, and the Asus CH8 Dark Hero in particular is superb from board to bios features. The closest thing in the AM5 670E costs about twice as much...never mind that the CH8 DarkHero itself is also $100 more than when I purchased it. 

 

Yeah I was looking at boards last night and I was like uhhhhhhh he's really screwed on this dual LAN thing lol and now we see every option and how you really are.  That proart X670E might really be your only option.  Have to read up on if they solved whatever ram issues I saw a little about yesterday.  

 

I'm more looking for more futureproofing so I wanted USB 4.  That cuts it down to 8 boards.   4 under $500.  I mean sheesh.  

[J7SC_Orion]

5 minutes ago, Nikado7 said:

 

Yeah I was looking at boards last night and I was like uhhhhhhh he's really screwed on this dual LAN thing lol and now we see every option and how you really are.  That proart X670E might really be your only option.  Have to read up on if they solved whatever ram issues I saw a little about yesterday.  

 

I'm more looking for more futureproofing so I wanted USB 4.  That cuts it down to 8 boards.   4 under $500.  I mean sheesh.  

 

...another option for me is to just wait for the Zen-4 Threadrippers which often have boards with dual LAN - never mind a lot more PCIe lanes. Unfortunately, AMD isn't the underdog anymore like it still was around late 2018 when I picked up two nice TR boards at reasonable prices, in relative terms, back then.

[pio]

That's actually a fantastic spreadsheet!  If you can get that document (eventually) sorted out into tabs, we could probably sticky that in the AMD section (if you'd want it to be).  Tons of useful info there!

[Nikado7]

9 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...another option for me is to just wait for the Zen-4 Threadrippers which often have boards with dual LAN - never mind a lot more PCIe lanes. Unfortunately, AMD isn't the underdog anymore like it still was around late 2018 when I picked up two nice TR boards at reasonable prices, in relative terms, back then.

 

I pulled the trigger and got that b650e taichi.  They said the b650e aorus master was just as good but didnt have usb 4 and the taichis ridiculous power phases sold me.   I also got a 990 pro, hopefully the wear issues are sorted out with the firmware by the time x3d comes out.  I have no patience lol.

 

Btw why can't you use a network card or something to get your extra lan?  

 

8 hours ago, pioneerisloud said:

That's actually a fantastic spreadsheet!  If you can get that document (eventually) sorted out into tabs, we could probably sticky that in the AMD section (if you'd want it to be).  Tons of useful info there!

 

What kinda tabs are you thinking?  I'm open to any ideas to make it easier.  I started hyperlinking the boards to their websites and might start adding other info.  The B650E Aorus Master has all of its M2's linked to the cpu so all of them are 5.0, whereas the Taichi only has 1, the rest are through chipset so only one is capable of 5.0.... info like that would be nice to know.  

 

Edited February 8, 2023 by Nikado7

[J7SC_Orion]

6 hours ago, Nikado7 said:

 

I pulled the trigger and got that b650e taichi.  They said the b650e aorus master was just as good but didnt have usb 4 and the taichis ridiculous power phases sold me.   I also got a 990 pro, hopefully the wear issues are sorted out with the firmware by the time x3d comes out.  I have no patience lol.

 

Btw why can't you use a network card or something to get your extra lan?  

 

 

What kinda tabs are you thinking?  I'm open to any ideas to make it easier.  I started hyperlinking the boards to their websites and might start adding other info.  The B650E Aorus Master has all of its M2's linked to the cpu so all of them are 5.0, whereas the Taichi only has 1, the rest are through chipset so only one is capable of 5.0.... info like that would be nice to know.  

 

 

...re. LAN daughter card, it takes up valuable PCIe on a desktop (rather than HEDT) mobo. 

 

I do admire your courage re. Samsung 990 Pro (I use several 980 Pro), given the various stories about 'disappearing' space. On the 980 Pro, the 2 TB versions are apparently also affected but after recent tests, mine seem to be ok. Hopefully, a firmware update by Samsung for the 990 Pro will fix it w/o gimping the speed.

 

What DDR5 are you getting ? I'm still holding out for a certain type of 32 GB DR sticks.

[ozlay]

I wish there was more boards with 10Gbe. And in smaller form factor. An ITX with 10Gbe would be amazing.

[Nikado7]

43 minutes ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...re. LAN daughter card, it takes up valuable PCIe on a desktop (rather than HEDT) mobo. 

 

I do admire your courage re. Samsung 990 Pro (I use several 980 Pro), given the various stories about 'disappearing' space. On the 980 Pro, the 2 TB versions are apparently also affected but after recent tests, mine seem to be ok. Hopefully, a firmware update by Samsung for the 990 Pro will fix it w/o gimping the speed.

 

What DDR5 are you getting ? I'm still holding out for a certain type of 32 GB DR sticks.

 

You really are a power user lol.  I'm sitting here like I will never need more than 1 possibly 2 m2 slots, 1 x16, a sata for my 14tb of stuff.  And that's it.  I don't even need the 2.5 as my internet is 50mbps and I don't really need a network faster than 1gbps.  I'm a loser lol.   

 

F5-6400J3239G16GA2-TZ5RK

 

They were on sale yesterday and were on the qvl list.   Wanted some 6600 but didn't wanna risk having issues either.  I don't know enough about ram compatibility/overclocking to take too many chances.  

 

I think everything else in my sig will work with it.  Get rid of 5800 and the board.   It's gonna be a wall mount so won't be using the case so eatx isn't an issue.  

[The Pook]

27 minutes ago, ozlay said:

I wish there was more boards with 10Gbe. And in smaller form factor. An ITX with 10Gbe would be amazing.

 

me too. even thought I'm skipping this generation I'm not even interested in boards that don't have onboard 10 GbE. 

 

Asrock had ~$200 boards with 10 GbE during Z370/Z390's hayday (Taichi Ultimate), now the cheapest is a the $309 Gigabyte () Z690 Aero-D or $499 Asus ProArt X670 

[J7SC_Orion]

30 minutes ago, Nikado7 said:

 

You really are a power user lol.  I'm sitting here like I will never need more than 1 possibly 2 m2 slots, 1 x16, a sata for my 14tb of stuff.  And that's it.  I don't even need the 2.5 as my internet is 50mbps and I don't really need a network faster than 1gbps.  I'm a loser lol.   

 

F5-6400J3239G16GA2-TZ5RK

 

They were on sale yesterday and were on the qvl list.   Wanted some 6600 but didn't wanna risk having issues either.  I don't know enough about ram compatibility/overclocking to take too many chances.  

 

I think everything else in my sig will work with it.  Get rid of 5800 and the board.   It's gonna be a wall mount so won't be using the case so eatx isn't an issue.  

 

...yeah, re. LAN and PCIe lanes, I keep on referencing 'work + play, productivity' and so forth...it's like being a contractor who wants a pick-up truck with a certain minimum payload capacity  

 

...As to DDR5  32GB DR sticks, the ones I want aren't out yet > 7200 MT A-die. I plan to buy several of this type for mix-and-match applications across different Intel and AMD...

[ozlay]

I like the Asus itx boards with the sata daughter board. Because I have no use for sata. They should do that for all boards. I haven't used sata in 8+ years.

[Nikado7]

The hardest thing mine will ever have to do is play GTA.  Sometimes fs 2020 and maybe I'll get into another game at some point in my life but I have no plans upgrading my 3080ti anytime soon.   The rest of the computer....I'm hoping it lasts a good 5 years +.   5950x is still a legend so I think 7950x3d should do the trick.  

[J7SC_Orion]

49 minutes ago, Nikado7 said:

The hardest thing mine will ever have to do is play GTA.  Sometimes fs 2020 and maybe I'll get into another game at some point in my life but I have no plans upgrading my 3080ti anytime soon.   The rest of the computer....I'm hoping it lasts a good 5 years +.   5950x is still a legend so I think 7950x3d should do the trick.  

 

A well performing 5950X combined w/ the 2x LAN Dark Hero mobo, fast RAM and a 4090 is all I really need(ed) since I play exclusively at 4K (FS2020, CP 2077, Ride4, ForzaH 5, F1 2021 etc). I may be short a few fps compared to AM5 or Z690/790, but in CP 2077 with the latest patches, my average 4K ultra fps is > 130 anyway (on a OLED 4K / 120); FS 2020 around 115 to 120 fps at 4K ultra.

 

Bonus: No P+E cores, no differential CCXs, no 'arguments' with the Windows 10 Pro scheduler. I will of course still upgrade in due course, but I doubt that I will actually notice, other than in benchies. 

 

 

Edited February 8, 2023 by J7SC_Orion

[Nikado7]

Found someone else already did what I did, and a lot better.  Edited original post.  

[ozlay]

11 hours ago, Nikado7 said:

Found someone else already did what I did, and a lot better.  Edited original post.  

I liked yours better.

[Nikado7]

1 hour ago, ozlay said:

I liked yours better.

Yeah I did have to copy theirs and put it all on one sheet and tweak some other things.  Interesting how going above and beyond can sometimes be a bad thing.  Just wish I knew they did it before I spent all night on it lol.