Cannot ping Windows 11 Pro PCs with static ip directly connected by ethernet

[HeyItsChris]

Cannot ping Windows 11 Pro PCs with static ip directly connected by ethernet

 

pc 1 set to 192.168.1.100 / 255.255.255.0 / 192.168.1.1

pc 2 set to 192.168.1.101 / 255.255.255.0 / 192.168.1.1

 

I tried pinging eachother from both pcs and still request timed out every time, even after disabling the firewall.

 

Any advice?

 

It shows No network access on both pcs as well...  I get activity lights on the ethernet port so its got some kind of connectivity.

 

Edited May 24, 2023 by HeyItsChris

[ENTERPRISE]

1 hour ago, HeyItsChris said:

Cannot ping Windows 11 Pro PCs with static ip directly connected by ethernet

 

pc 1 set to 192.168.1.100 / 255.255.255.0 / 192.168.1.1

pc 2 set to 192.168.1.101 / 255.255.255.0 / 192.168.1.1

 

I tried pinging eachother from both pcs and still request timed out every time, even after disabling the firewall.

 

Any advice?

 

It shows No network access on both pcs as well...  I get activity lights on the ethernet port so its got some kind of connectivity.

 

Is there a reason you are doing a direct connection?

 

You have both PC's configured to a gateway that does not exist and will not route the traffic. Essentially both PC's are looking out into a black hole. 

 

 

[HeyItsChris]

4 minutes ago, ENTERPRISE said:

Is there a reason you are doing a direct connection?

 

You have both PC's configured to a gateway that does not exist and will not route the traffic. Essentially both PC's are looking out into a black hole. 

 

 

Hello thanks for the reply & the reason why is its a direct connection because i dont have a switch or a router on me to assign ips.  I've done it this way before and it worked, but this time it's not working.

 

What would you suggest for ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway for a static ip to get it working on both pcs (2)?

 

Thanks

[Avacado]

What are you actually trying to do with this connection?

Edited May 24, 2023 by Avacado

[HeyItsChris]

play games

[pio]

It's been a good minute since I've ever tried to pull this off........  so much easier with a router and switch lol.

Do you have a crossover cable you're using?  IIRC it has to be a crossover cable to be direct connection like that.  That rule MIGHT have changed since I did this.

Is it possible that subnet of 192.168.1.x is already in use for actual network use?  Maybe try 192.168.2.x?

 

I really don't know, like I said, I've used a router / switch for years and years now.  I haven't tried a direct connection like this since the 1990's.

[ENTERPRISE]

2 hours ago, pioneerisloud said:

It's been a good minute since I've ever tried to pull this off........  so much easier with a router and switch lol.

Do you have a crossover cable you're using?  IIRC it has to be a crossover cable to be direct connection like that.  That rule MIGHT have changed since I did this.

Is it possible that subnet of 192.168.1.x is already in use for actual network use?  Maybe try 192.168.2.x?

 

I really don't know, like I said, I've used a router / switch for years and years now.  I haven't tried a direct connection like this since the 1990's.

No I do believe you still need a crossover. Standard patch cable wont work. 

[The Pook]

you shouldn't need a crossover cable so long as your NIC supports mdix (aka, any NIC made in the past ~15 years). 

 

assuming it's a Windows machine you should just have to enable sharing in Network Connections on the NIC. Right click -> Properties -> Sharing:

 

[pio]

1 hour ago, The Pook said:

you shouldn't need a crossover cable so long as your NIC supports mdix (aka, any NIC made in the past ~15 years). 

 

assuming it's a Windows machine you should just have to enable sharing in Network Connections on the NIC. Right click -> Properties -> Sharing:

 

This probably would be the easiest solution, and yes it does work.  The first PC just becomes the "router" basically to the second PC, so both can still talk to each other.  And both can get to the internet.  You'd want to let DHCP handle it probably at that point (you can go manual once you see what DHCP sets things to).

 

It's unclear if an internet connection or secondary LAN is even available though.  It could be a fully offline LAN game he's trying to play too?  Only reason I brought up crossover cables, the question sounded to me like an old school offline LAN setup between 2 rigs.

Definitely need a slightly better idea of the proposed network in total and the goals of it.

It's ALMOST sounding like you've got your ISP modem connected directly to PC1, and PC2 is connected to PC1 because no router?  If so, yes follow Pook's advice and just use internet connection sharing and DHCP.  If you are NOT using an internet connection and just trying to directly connect 2 rigs together, I think, THINK that's still a crossover patch cable situation?

Edited May 25, 2023 by pioneerisloud

[The Pook]

You wouldn't need a crossover cable in either situation unless the hardware is ancient. If you're using a ≥1 GbE NIC then it's safe to assume that you can just use a normal ethernet cable. I ran direct attached on my NAS up until I got a 10 GbE switch and I used the same cable from PC -> PC as PC -> switch. 

 

 

Is crossover cable still needed?

SERVERFAULT.COM

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Do I still need a crossover cable to connect two PC's directly? (NIC <-> NIC)? If not, then why was this needed in the past, and when was it used for this? Specifically, when did crossover cab...

 

 

Medium-dependent interface - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[pio]

3 minutes ago, The Pook said:

You wouldn't need a crossover cable in either situation unless the hardware is ancient. If you're using a ≥1 GbE NIC then it's safe to assume that you can just use a normal ethernet cable. I ran direct attached on my NAS up until I got a 10 GbE switch and I used the same cable from PC -> PC as PC -> switch. 

 

 

Is crossover cable still needed?

SERVERFAULT.COM

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Do I still need a crossover cable to connect two PC's directly? (NIC <-> NIC)? If not, then why was this needed in the past, and when was it used for this? Specifically, when did crossover cab...

 

 

Medium-dependent interface - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

Learn something new everyday, thanks Pook!

I haven't tried direct connection in a long time anyway, but good to know if I ever need to again.

[HeyItsChris]

I got it working now its fixed just set 192.168.1.50 on pc 1 and 192.168.1.51 pn pc 2 with 255.255.255.0 & 192.168.1.1 on both pcs and now i can ping each pc with no loss at 1ms response time.

 

However i cannot connect to my 192.168.1.51 pc 2 on Call Of Duty WWII as I get "CANNOT CONNECT TO HOST" yet the server shows up in the list and I have the Windows Defender Firewall turned off on both pcs and still only the 192.168.1.51 pc can connect to my laptop which is 192.168.1.50...

 

So to be clear my ryzen 5 3550h mini pc is the 192.168.1.51 pc and my lenovo ideapad 110-15acl laptop is 192.168.1.50 pc and only the ryzen mini pc can connect to my laptop and play call of duty wwii together but the ryzen mini pc cannot host the server for some reason?  Idk why...

Edited May 27, 2023 by HeyItsChris