EXTREMEHW January 7-day foldathon ([H] Invite) January 24th-31st 1200 UTC

[neurotix]

Somehow, I don't know how, I'm in 4th place overall and had a 10mil point lead on Avacado and PaperClip.

 

Now the gap has shrunk and both Avacado and Flux are coming for my ass by the end of the competition. I fully expect to be knocked down to 6th place by the end.

Edited January 27, 2024 by neurotix

[Fluxmaven]

  On 27/01/2024 at 19:32, neurotix said:

Somehow, I don't know how, I'm in 4th place overall and had a 10mil point lead on Avacado and PaperClip.

 

Now the gap has shrunk and both Avacado and Flux are coming for my ass by the end of the competition. I fully expect to be knocked down to 6th place by the end.

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I wanted you to think you had a chance...

 

It's more fun when I give you a big lead then reel you in 

[neurotix]

Nevermind. Delete.

Edited January 27, 2024 by neurotix

[SoloCamo]

  On 27/01/2024 at 03:17, damric said:

You can get that card down below 150w and not sacrifice much folding capability.

 

When I'm not trying to heat the house or run up the power bill I just set it to 80% core frequency and 90% voltage (seems to stay around 2000MHz 800mV).

 

I've been a bit more aggressive this week though.

 

 

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  On 27/01/2024 at 05:24, pioneerisloud said:

I've got my 6900XT running at "stock" 2500MHz boost / 2000 mem, with a -10% power tune.  Seems to be boosting still around stock levels, but only drawing around 200w instead of the 300w it was overclocked and at +12% powertune or whatever.  Hotspot isn't near throttling either, nice and "cool" 85 ish degrees on the hotspot.  

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Thanks.  I'm ok with a 200w load on it, especially considering I usually game at 255w for hours on end so this will be fine - rather get the points.  I've got it still at 2500mhz boost (most workloads seem to be around 2300-2400mhz core) and the mem is still set to 2100mhz w/ fast timings.   Dropped the PL -10% to 230w now just to cap it but I've yet to see it hit above 215w folding so far.  What ambient temps do you have @pioneerisloud?  My card hasn't hit even 70C on the hotspot with rpms on the reference amd cooler at 1400rpm (during folding that is).  My ambient is around 73F right now in the house.

Edited January 27, 2024 by SoloCamo

[neurotix]

I wonder how my 4090 would do if I lowered the power limit to 80% and disabled my overclock. Or should I lower the power limit and keep the OC?

 

I've folded for over a year straight on it, but never tried seeing what my output would be with a lower power limit, and how much money it would save. Wife has complained the power bill is $200.

 

I may have to try this when the foldathon is over.

Edited January 27, 2024 by neurotix

[pio]

  On 27/01/2024 at 20:39, SoloCamo said:

 

 

Thanks.  I'm ok with a 200w load on it, especially considering I usually game at 255w for hours on end so this will be fine - rather get the points.  I've got it still at 2500mhz boost (most workloads seem to be around 2300-2400mhz core) and the mem is still set to 2100mhz w/ fast timings.   Dropped the PL -10% to 230w now just to cap it but I've yet to see it hit above 215w folding so far.  What ambient temps do you have @pioneerisloud?  My card hasn't hit even 70C on the hotspot with rpms on the reference amd cooler at 1400rpm (during folding that is).  My ambient is around 73F right now in the house.

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My 6900XT is a problem child.  MSI used a HDT cooler on the die, and the die on these cards REALLY wants a flat copper base.  The hotspot on my card is so hot because of the little cracks between the heatpipes.  I've already used thermal putty and one of those graphite sheets for TIM on it, and that didn't help it much at all.

My ambient apartment temperatures, I'm TRYING to keep it below 77*F inside (so far I've been lucky).  So my ambient is anywhere from 72-77*F or so.  I do try to keep it below 75*F, but with all these cards folding.....well its getting hot in herre.  

[Fluxmaven]

  On 27/01/2024 at 23:26, neurotix said:

I wonder how my 4090 would do if I lowered the power limit to 80% and disabled my overclock. Or should I lower the power limit and keep the OC?

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Definitely worth playing around with. You can shave a decent amount of power off without killing PPD too much. I power limit most of my cards because it gets unbearably hot in the office otherwise.

 

  On 28/01/2024 at 00:07, pioneerisloud said:

well its getting hot in herre.  

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[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 03:53, Fluxmaven said:

 

Definitely worth playing around with. You can shave a decent amount of power off without killing PPD too much. I power limit most of my cards because it gets unbearably hot in the office otherwise.

 

 

 

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Do you power limit them and run them at factory boost, or do you power limit them and also run an OC on them?

[Fluxmaven]

  On 28/01/2024 at 15:32, neurotix said:

 

Do you power limit them and run them at factory boost, or do you power limit them and also run an OC on them?

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Most of the cards have waterblocks and thus run very cool so they stay boosted fairly high. Sometimes I'll sprinkle on +20 or so core just to bump it up to a number I like, but I want it to be stable so I don't go crazy on OC for folding.

 

As you have found out the hard way, a handful of power limited older gen cards will still beat a single top dawg card OC or not. 

[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 15:59, Fluxmaven said:

Most of the cards have waterblocks and thus run very cool so they stay boosted fairly high. Sometimes I'll sprinkle on +20 or so core just to bump it up to a number I like, but I want it to be stable so I don't go crazy on OC for folding.

 

As you have found out the hard way, a handful of power limited older gen cards will still beat a single top dawg card OC or not. 

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There really is no finding out the hard way, given you've been beating me since at least April last year. I expect it.

 

Also it's not a single new card- I run a 3060 as well.

Edited January 28, 2024 by neurotix

[Fluxmaven]

  On 28/01/2024 at 17:28, neurotix said:

 

There really is no finding out the hard way, given you've been beating me since at least April last year. I expect it.

 

Also it's not a single new card- I run a 3060 as well.

 

Also it's great and such a fun thing to single out the guy whose lower back has been medically evaluated as crippled, who can't even work on rigs anymore because of it, who has had two invasive surgeries in the last year and a half on the back and the hip, and who has fibromyalgia and chronic pain syndrome. Such a nice thing to do. What a great forum. (I.e. stop it it's gotten old)

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Well I was beating you before you added the 3060 to the mix so the point still stands.

 

Not sure what your health issues have to do with us bantering during foldathons. I've never made fun of your for your health or ability to work on rigs. If you don't want me to single you out anymore, that's fine I won't. YOU have encouraged this by by tagging me and saying things like "I hope you die under a bridge hehe". 

 

I'll never mention you again. However, if you want to speak my name don't cry when I reply. 

[The Pook]

  On 28/01/2024 at 17:56, Fluxmaven said:

if you want to speak my name don't cry when I reply. 

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[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 17:56, Fluxmaven said:

 

Well I was beating you before you added the 3060 to the mix so the point still stands.

 

Not sure what your health issues have to do with us bantering during foldathons. I've never made fun of your for your health or ability to work on rigs. If you don't want me to single you out anymore, that's fine I won't. YOU have encouraged this by by tagging me and saying things like "I hope you die under a bridge hehe". 

 

I'll never mention you again. However, if you want to speak my name don't cry when I reply. 

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Fair enough, I did participate in it back.

 

Yeah, I'd like the teasing and stuff to stop personally, but I would hope to remain on good terms with you given our common interests in anime and keyboards.

 

So, sorry for that and taking it kinda far, you're right that my medical stuff has nothing to do with it nor have you teased me for it. I only brought it up because I already have that stuff to deal with and being teased every foldathon adds to the stress I already go through, if that makes sense. Straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing.

 

Edit: also sorry this was not done over PMs. I should have not done it publicly here. Sigh.

Edited January 28, 2024 by neurotix

[Fluxmaven]

  On 28/01/2024 at 18:31, neurotix said:

Fair enough, I did participate in it back.

 

Yeah, I'd like the teasing and stuff to stop personally

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That's all you had to say. Consider it done.

 

With that said, It looks like it's time to find my next victim. 

[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 19:03, Fluxmaven said:

 

That's all you had to say. Consider it done.

 

With that said, It looks like it's time to find my next victim. 

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Alright
Sorry but I generally don't participate in the dirty dozens or the "ban the user" threads.

[firedfly]

  On 28/01/2024 at 19:03, Fluxmaven said:

 

With that said, It looks like it's time to find my next victim. 

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Ramp up your folding game and come get me!

[Fluxmaven]

  On 28/01/2024 at 19:25, firedfly said:

 

Ramp up your folding game and come get me!

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Time to get on onlyfans to fund some 4090s 

 

[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 19:39, Fluxmaven said:

Time to get on onlyfans to fund some 4090s 

 

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Lmao

[SoloCamo]

You 4090 guys are going to make me fire up my nuclear option... a 7970GHZ Edition, 290X and a Vega 56.  Perhaps between all of them I'll get 1/10th the points output of a idle 4090.    And if that doesn't work, I'm sure adding my two 15w tdp AMD apu laptops will really put the stress on you all.

Edited January 28, 2024 by SoloCamo

[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 22:30, SoloCamo said:

You 4090 guys are going to make me fire up my nuclear option... a 7970GHZ Edition, 290X and a Vega 56.  Perhaps between all of them I'll get 1/10th the points output of a idle 4090.    And if that doesn't work, I'm sure adding my two 15w tdp AMD apu laptops will really put the stress on you all.

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[Avacado]

  On 27/01/2024 at 23:26, neurotix said:

I wonder how my 4090 would do if I lowered the power limit to 80% and disabled my overclock. Or should I lower the power limit and keep the OC?

 

I've folded for over a year straight on it, but never tried seeing what my output would be with a lower power limit, and how much money it would save. Wife has complained the power bill is $200.

 

I may have to try this when the foldathon is over.

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I'm running full bore. But even if you did PL your 4090, you would still get more PPD because you are running on Linux. 

 

 

[neurotix]

  On 28/01/2024 at 23:06, Avacado said:

I'm running full bore. But even if you did PL your 4090, you would still get more PPD because you are running on Linux. 

 

 

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Yeah I run it on Linux. OC'ed to about 2940MHz. Interestingly, I can game and bench at 3090MHz in Windows and for Superposition I can even do 3135MHz.

 

However, in Linux, X Windows and Cinnamon (i.e. the GUI) lock up if I OC the card over 3000MHz, and it even becomes unresponsive to key combinations to give me a terminal. This might be because I have no voltage control in Linux, as the card had the voltage slider maxed out for my overclocks and benching in Windows.

 

The question I'm wondering about is that in the Linux OC tool I have, GreenWithEnvy, the power limit slider does not go by percentage, but by watts. I've noticed that the majority of the time, work units take 350-400w max and very rarely, 450w. So I'm unsure what wattage to lower it to, to get 77% like you posted. Like in the last paragraph, I worry about it affecting stability as well.

 

You are also correct about making more points on Linux- for the majority of the last month or two, I'm doing 30m actual points and sometimes even 31 or 32m for the day.

 

We'll have to see; I may try just lowering the wattage slider to 300w and see how it affects my system.

[Sir Beregond]

Well, tried running at 50% power (about 150w) overnight and room still hotboxed and @damricadded another million between us. Back to full bore now, but not home so just hoping nothing crashed as I try to catch up. 

 

Hoping to gett some more 500-900k WUs to close the gap 

 

But based on last night will have to just shut down for the night again like I was before.

[pio]

Lost a few points / WU's or whatever last night. -_-

I decided I'd go ahead and try a game out because I was bored on a Saturday night.  Closed the folding client window.  Didn't realize it was still folding.  Started a game up.  It kept freezing at completely random for like a full second at a time.  Rebooted my machine.  Tried another game out.  Actually froze entire system - even audio and mic stopped working (but it came back).  Realized there was something even more wrong with this new system than I thought.......

DDU'd and reinstalled R.ID modded drivers on the 7900XTX.  Problems are solved. -_-

Started my folding client again.

Never did play a damn game. -_-

[keeph8n]

  On 28/01/2024 at 19:25, firedfly said:

 

Ramp up your folding game and come get me!

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I'm on my way