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So......the capture card I bought didn't work. I think I said this earlier, but I can't find the post. Was getting nothing but a blue screen out of the capture card on the older video cards. Didn't test anything newer, as I needed the old rigs to work. I bought a tripod for my phone instead. My phone records 1080p / 60 FPS, so it seems to do an okay job capturing game footage off my monitor. Working on optimal placements, and here in the next few days I'll start recording the FX footage. So....game footage is coming soon! Wanted to record the output somehow to share if its playable or not on these old rigs. Not decided yet how much I want on video and how much I want on "paper" here at EXHW. Kind of want both for those that want to read, and those that want to just watch a YT video. Basically, I'm attempting, in a way, to archive these rigs as best as I can. So if I'm a little slow on figuring this out, bear with me. I've never taken on a project of this magnitude before. Heck, I've never paid attention on how to benchmark in game footage before, so this entire experience is new to me. The FX rig, Thuban (Phenom II) and Phenom rig are all installed, games, benchmarks, and they're ready to go. FX rig is on my bench setup right now, ready to record. I can also easily install what's missing on the two Ryzen rigs for comparison too once I get going (FX is first to get benched).

Same. Love the idea of another GPU vendor on the market. Don't want it in my rig till the bugs are all ironed out though. I wonder how well it does on mining or F@H projects though too......

I have two currently awaiting to be built after the 939 rig. One board was an ECS 200MHz FSB Socket A board, with a Via chipset. Forget the model, but it was BNIB (for old Socket A). The other I ended up with was a NF2 400MHz FSB board, looks very VERY similar to that one actually. A7N8x Deluxe I think was the model? It would make a good replacement for the ECS I didn't want but was BNIB lol. That Thermaltake Volcano 7 (right?) is actually on my list of things to buy lol. Shoot me your offer on it. Obviously with my Socket 939 woes, having extra motherboards on hand of good quality probably won't hurt. I would, but do I dare? o.0 I never was a DFI fan back then, too many options in the BIOS that needed manually set otherwise things wouldn't work lol. That does come with another x2 though, and its a much better board than the A8N-E I was looking at. Hmmmm, payday is in a week. I'll see what's still available on payday, and find the one with the flattest caps I think lol. I still have a good functioning A8N32-SLI Deluxe to play with, it just doesn't work with the HD5870.

Okay, so I've got to share this one, because its the one that got me started doing all this to begin with.....the want of having an "ultimate" 939 rig again. Rig doesn't work. I'm about 99% sure its bad caps on the motherboard, so searching frantically around on ebay for yet ANOTHER 939 board (this is #4 in my possession). It's just constant random BSOD's, doesn't matter what OS, doesn't matter what drive its on. CPU and RAM work fine in the other 939 board, but the GPU doesn't......so I can't use my other board. But this is what it looks like all put together at least. So yeah.......looking for another 939 board again. -_- Anyway, check it out! I'm extremely thrilled with how it turned out so far. So still need a functional 939 board that's NOT 32 laned SLI, my button to come in from China, and I think it'll be ready to go. There's front USB missing, I have them. They're just missing because no power / reset buttons so why bother putting them back in yet. Ignore the missing lighter / ashtray. It's there now, this picture was taken the day I cleaned it. Just tossed in to show how it looks with the side panel.

I personally won't use it, but I can see how ignoring certain sections of the site would help clean up the look a lot for some users. Seems like a neat feature to add on to the site. Trader ratings in the classified section though, yeah I can get behind that one for sure! Site's coming along very nicely so far.

Nahhh, I'll water cool when I have a nice rig. None of mine are nice enough.

My lowly Ryzen 3600 rig with a Gen2 NVME drive was night and day difference from my old i7 3770k @ 4.4GHz, with the same GPU installed. Yes, it's going to be a HUGE upgrade lol. Going to a fast NVME from a 2.5" SSD is almost as good as going HDD to SSD. So that alone is going to be a huge upgrade because probably Gen5 NVME by that time. The CPU is going to help smooth things out so much too, oh man. You got nearly a decade's use out of that rig. To me, that's a pretty wise use of $4,500 10 years ago. I just always have to have something to monkey with, so I'm always buying old used junk lol. If I were on a regular "new" upgrade cycle, that's how I'd want to be too. One "all out" build every like 10 years.

We can certainly hope so.

Not a bad looking build! Looks to me like a high end FX build? I've seen that board, just don't recall which one it is off the top of my head. Nothing at all wrong with it if it still does what you need it to. I'd still be on my 2600k daily had it not broken. That system looks beefy enough even for an older rig I wouldn't be surprised at all if it still played AAA titles fine. Enjoy it! By the way, if that's a 990FX board, it might be able to boot off NVME using some of those extra PCIe lanes, just as a possible upgrade path. If it is, check for BIOS updates. Pretty sure 2012 would've been 900 series / FX Bulldozer CPU's. EDIT: Derp, you had a sig rig. Yeah, check Asus for a BIOS update if you haven't already. The Crosshair V should support NVME, my Sabertooth does.

Subbed. I'll just get my water cooling fix from your posts.

Not interested, just yet another move to consolidate anything creative into one or two giant companies that run everything. Still haven't bought an EA title since 2007 or whenever it was BF3 / Origin came out, and still won't. MS.....you guys are no different, I'll stop buying your garbage too. I can live without video games if it means I'm going to rent everything and have subscription models that can get cancelled just because I said something wrong in an unrelated chat. I'll buy boxed copies of old games LONG before I pay a subscription to ALLOW me to play a game. MS Games Pass.......its a neat idea in theory, I see its uses, but nope....not for me. Give it to us as an OPTION, not a forced requirement. There's just too much regulation that the companies would have control over, and these are companies I just flat out do not trust anymore. Yes, I know, I know......Steam is the same thing. Even later boxed games were setup in their EULA's to basically say its not "yours". My point still stands. Bring back personal ownership of things I pay my hard earned money for! Stop consolidating all things creative under one or two companies. Idk, maybe I'm the odd man out here. *shrugs /rant

Apartment living, I don't get to pick the faucets. And no, it probably shouldn't be in the water.......... we'll see if it lived. (The machine its going into keeps BSOD'ing on me though, so there might be more wrong here than I was hoping for. I noticed a few bulging caps, I'm really hoping I don't have to recap a motherboard just to finish a rig here.......)

Once that dries, I've been up to no good preparing for my multicore benchoff . My new Capture Card arrived in the mail today, so I can have a few days to play with that while I wait for this to dry some. Any day now my button can arrive.......between now and February next year....... I've got most of the rigs built, tested, and installed with my game / bench suite list thing.

Same here. I'm always down to play something at night after the kiddo's in bed. I don't ever play games outside of racing alone, story type stuff like campaigns in video games and movies even, I just don't get that much enjoyment out of by myself. And I'm pretty sure in my dang near 30 years being into computers now (I'm 35 lol), I've missed a few good single player games. I still haven't played Crysis lol. Oblivion, Skyrim....yeah nope. Trying them out co-op though, seems to help me out when I'm bored in the slower parts lol. Anytime I'm online on Steam, feel free to hit me up. Always appreciate a good game, regardless if its story or not. All else fails, almost everybody that I know has Killing Floor lol. That's always a good fall back game. ----------------- List updated, ty.

List updated. Yeah, I had put GTA V on the list because you can do campaign missions in GTA Online, but its not really anything near the same as single player campaign co-op. That's more or less what the list was for, single player campaign but in co-op mode. Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. I'm still searching for others, and as I find mods that work I'll put them in here too.

Trying to play with a friend online.

Reserved just in case OP needs expanding, hoping for a very big list.

I'll edit this and make it look a little better later...... Let's start a list of co-op PC games. Please let me know if its online, LAN, local, or dial up and any possible limitations or notes / mods that might be relevant. I'll organize it all into a list here, and maybe we can organize some co-op gaming between EXHW members sometime later on if there was enough interest. Looking to make more of an archival type list, but also consider this as game recommendations too. I, believe it or not, haven't played very many games all the way through. Co-op with a friend seems to help me get through painstakingly long drawn out campaign stories that don't hold my interest till the action really starts. Can be anything that's campaign style co-op with 2+ people. Any year so long as it can still be played. Below is what I've found (and played) so far all the way through at least recently enough to remember. Really looking forward to finding more mods that make classic single player campaigns co-op, but anything good co-op is appreciated. Online Campaign Co-op: Left For Dead 1 / 2 Portal 2 Half Life 1 and 2 (Sven Co-Op) Doom 1 and 2 (Doomseeker) Halo series (MasterChief Collection / playing right now for the 1st time ever) GTA V (maybe? / haven't really given a good chance) Quake (2021 Steam Quake update) Far Cry 6 (*that is unlocked only after playing 40mins of the game) Wildlands Trailmakers (Gamepass) Raft Overcooked 1 / 2 Factorio Satisfactory Stardew Valley WWZ : aftermath (online co-op for both story and horde/challenge mode. up to 4 players in a group) State Of Decay 2 (up to 4 people in one game online co-op open world) The Borderlands Series (4 player co-op?) Gears of War (most are 2+ player co-op) MudRunner / SnowRunner (up to 4 player) Sniper Elite Series (2 player co-op) Division 2 (4 player co-op) Don't Starve Together (local and online) Local Split Screen (and online) Co-op: Most LEGO games (not online) Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed (not QUITE campaign but fun) Emulation (RetroArch Playtest / input lag kills this one though) Broforce (local and online) Magicka (local and online) Sonic Mania (local or Steam Remote Play) Streets of Rage Remake (local only) Streets of Rage 4 (local and matchmaking / Steam remoteplay) Trine (local for the whole series) (Steam Remote Play) Trine 2-4 (local, Stream remote play, online) Overcooked 1 / 2 (pretty sure both can go online or local) Don't Starve Together (local and online) LAN Only Campaign Co-Op: (VPN setup should be usable) Dial up Campaign Co-Op: (setup private dial up network somehow / would need to research) WarCraft II (Or has this been updated to online? / have not played recently but wanted on list)

I feel like I should make a thread about this lol. This could get to be a long list and might be useful all in one spot. Wouldn't be applicable since I'm not playing them all right now.

I'll certainly check into them anyway. Co-op games are apparently my style games lol. EDIT: Those both actually look kind of neat. Cuphead reminds me of something similar to SNES Donkey Kong Country. 2D, classic animation, looks almost like a platformer? And It Takes Two, that looks like a very ummm, interesting story line. Put them on my watch list, might pick up on payday. TY for the suggestion!

Why not update again with you guys? I've played so far, HL1-2, Doom (old ones), Quake 1, and now working on Halo series currently. All co-op. Any other games that are legendary that I might've missed over the years that are now co-op friendly? Was trying to figure out the Elder Scrolls series, but apparently co-op specific mods never really gained full traction. Crysis series co-op fell flat on its face in like 2007 / 2008, so that probably doesn't work either. Didn't find any Quake 2 or 4 co-op mods, but the OG Quake was great anyway. I dunno what all games I've missed over the years even. Before this latest run, the only games I'd ever played to completion were Mafia II and the entire Portal series. Finding new co-op mods has really opened me up to a lot more games I'd have never touched before. TLDR: I need moar co-op game ideas!

Oh I'm not lol. If it weren't for how well Windows 10 just plugs in, and works with nearly all of my game titles I'd have switched to Linux a few years ago now. MS isn't the only OS manufacturer out there. So until that day comes when they are, I'm not that worried.

I'm sick and tired of Windows 11 already and I haven't even tried it yet. -_- All, ALL of my rigs are complaining now that they're not Windows 11 compatible, even my sig rig. Why is MS forcing it through the update service again? Ugh. If I wanted 11, I'd install 11. I appreciate the opportunity to upgrade from 10 to 11, but it doesn't belong in Windows updates like this, especially now that its a giant "HEY YOUR RIG ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, BUY A NEW ONE" message. Both of my Ryzen rigs, my Broadwell server, my FX 8350 rig, these should all have absolutely zero problems with Windows 11, but here we are. It still blows my mind that K8 dual cores don't work on 10 too though, but Atoms work fine. Meh..... *shrugs /rant Just tossed it in there because its related to Windows Update lol.

I don't actually condone DDoS attacks, but you know that's what these "hackers" are thinking.

If you go side hustle, I've got a couple small metal projects I could use some extra help with, my steel fab guy has been incredibly busy lately. I'd buy a headphones stand too, mine always gets knocked over. -_- Glad you joined us over here in this corner of the internet. Nice to have you here, always appreciate creative minds.