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Once that dries, I've been up to no good preparing for my multicore benchoff . My new Capture Card arrived in the mail today, so I can have a few days to play with that while I wait for this to dry some. Any day now my button can arrive.......between now and February next year....... I've got most of the rigs built, tested, and installed with my game / bench suite list thing.

Same here. I'm always down to play something at night after the kiddo's in bed. I don't ever play games outside of racing alone, story type stuff like campaigns in video games and movies even, I just don't get that much enjoyment out of by myself. And I'm pretty sure in my dang near 30 years being into computers now (I'm 35 lol), I've missed a few good single player games. I still haven't played Crysis lol. Oblivion, Skyrim....yeah nope. Trying them out co-op though, seems to help me out when I'm bored in the slower parts lol. Anytime I'm online on Steam, feel free to hit me up. Always appreciate a good game, regardless if its story or not. All else fails, almost everybody that I know has Killing Floor lol. That's always a good fall back game. ----------------- List updated, ty.

List updated. Yeah, I had put GTA V on the list because you can do campaign missions in GTA Online, but its not really anything near the same as single player campaign co-op. That's more or less what the list was for, single player campaign but in co-op mode. Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. I'm still searching for others, and as I find mods that work I'll put them in here too.

Trying to play with a friend online.

Reserved just in case OP needs expanding, hoping for a very big list.

I'll edit this and make it look a little better later...... Let's start a list of co-op PC games. Please let me know if its online, LAN, local, or dial up and any possible limitations or notes / mods that might be relevant. I'll organize it all into a list here, and maybe we can organize some co-op gaming between EXHW members sometime later on if there was enough interest. Looking to make more of an archival type list, but also consider this as game recommendations too. I, believe it or not, haven't played very many games all the way through. Co-op with a friend seems to help me get through painstakingly long drawn out campaign stories that don't hold my interest till the action really starts. Can be anything that's campaign style co-op with 2+ people. Any year so long as it can still be played. Below is what I've found (and played) so far all the way through at least recently enough to remember. Really looking forward to finding more mods that make classic single player campaigns co-op, but anything good co-op is appreciated. Online Campaign Co-op: Left For Dead 1 / 2 Portal 2 Half Life 1 and 2 (Sven Co-Op) Doom 1 and 2 (Doomseeker) Halo series (MasterChief Collection / playing right now for the 1st time ever) GTA V (maybe? / haven't really given a good chance) Quake (2021 Steam Quake update) Far Cry 6 (*that is unlocked only after playing 40mins of the game) Wildlands Trailmakers (Gamepass) Raft Overcooked 1 / 2 Factorio Satisfactory Stardew Valley WWZ : aftermath (online co-op for both story and horde/challenge mode. up to 4 players in a group) State Of Decay 2 (up to 4 people in one game online co-op open world) The Borderlands Series (4 player co-op?) Gears of War (most are 2+ player co-op) MudRunner / SnowRunner (up to 4 player) Sniper Elite Series (2 player co-op) Division 2 (4 player co-op) Don't Starve Together (local and online) Local Split Screen (and online) Co-op: Most LEGO games (not online) Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed (not QUITE campaign but fun) Emulation (RetroArch Playtest / input lag kills this one though) Broforce (local and online) Magicka (local and online) Sonic Mania (local or Steam Remote Play) Streets of Rage Remake (local only) Streets of Rage 4 (local and matchmaking / Steam remoteplay) Trine (local for the whole series) (Steam Remote Play) Trine 2-4 (local, Stream remote play, online) Overcooked 1 / 2 (pretty sure both can go online or local) Don't Starve Together (local and online) LAN Only Campaign Co-Op: (VPN setup should be usable) Dial up Campaign Co-Op: (setup private dial up network somehow / would need to research) WarCraft II (Or has this been updated to online? / have not played recently but wanted on list)

I feel like I should make a thread about this lol. This could get to be a long list and might be useful all in one spot. Wouldn't be applicable since I'm not playing them all right now.

I'll certainly check into them anyway. Co-op games are apparently my style games lol. EDIT: Those both actually look kind of neat. Cuphead reminds me of something similar to SNES Donkey Kong Country. 2D, classic animation, looks almost like a platformer? And It Takes Two, that looks like a very ummm, interesting story line. Put them on my watch list, might pick up on payday. TY for the suggestion!

Why not update again with you guys? I've played so far, HL1-2, Doom (old ones), Quake 1, and now working on Halo series currently. All co-op. Any other games that are legendary that I might've missed over the years that are now co-op friendly? Was trying to figure out the Elder Scrolls series, but apparently co-op specific mods never really gained full traction. Crysis series co-op fell flat on its face in like 2007 / 2008, so that probably doesn't work either. Didn't find any Quake 2 or 4 co-op mods, but the OG Quake was great anyway. I dunno what all games I've missed over the years even. Before this latest run, the only games I'd ever played to completion were Mafia II and the entire Portal series. Finding new co-op mods has really opened me up to a lot more games I'd have never touched before. TLDR: I need moar co-op game ideas!

Oh I'm not lol. If it weren't for how well Windows 10 just plugs in, and works with nearly all of my game titles I'd have switched to Linux a few years ago now. MS isn't the only OS manufacturer out there. So until that day comes when they are, I'm not that worried.

I'm sick and tired of Windows 11 already and I haven't even tried it yet. -_- All, ALL of my rigs are complaining now that they're not Windows 11 compatible, even my sig rig. Why is MS forcing it through the update service again? Ugh. If I wanted 11, I'd install 11. I appreciate the opportunity to upgrade from 10 to 11, but it doesn't belong in Windows updates like this, especially now that its a giant "HEY YOUR RIG ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, BUY A NEW ONE" message. Both of my Ryzen rigs, my Broadwell server, my FX 8350 rig, these should all have absolutely zero problems with Windows 11, but here we are. It still blows my mind that K8 dual cores don't work on 10 too though, but Atoms work fine. Meh..... *shrugs /rant Just tossed it in there because its related to Windows Update lol.

I don't actually condone DDoS attacks, but you know that's what these "hackers" are thinking.

If you go side hustle, I've got a couple small metal projects I could use some extra help with, my steel fab guy has been incredibly busy lately. I'd buy a headphones stand too, mine always gets knocked over. -_- Glad you joined us over here in this corner of the internet. Nice to have you here, always appreciate creative minds.

Still waiting, still not really in a rush either though. Just didn't want anybody to think I collected my prize and was being a jerk not taking pictures.

That looks a lot heavier than the cheap plastic junk I'm using now. Would buy / 10. Looks really neat too!

I promise guys, bench results are coming soon. As stated previously, capture card is being ordered Monday or Tuesday (waiting on bank transfer). I think that'll be the best way to prove without a doubt if these titles are playable or not across all rigs. In the meantime, enjoy some modding progress. Kingwin 2002 Mid Tower Mod: Rosewill Challenger Case Mod:

@damric I don't think I'd trust myself to hold my phone and play at the same time. I was debating on using my laptop's built in webcam to record it, but a friend pointed out how horrible the webcam is on it. So......I'm buying a capture card. Should be here hopefully by end of next week. I'm only seeing a potential problem once the HDMI no longer passes audio through with it on the older cards that I'll have to use DVI adapters with. But I have a few backup plans for that anyway. Currently looking at the MyPin Game Live Box on Amazon for $90, looks like it'll do a fine job with all of these old rigs. That's really the only holdup on benching the rigs I have done. I want to be able to show you guys if its smooth gameplay or not, not just give benchmark numbers. Obviously the faster rigs are going to benchmark faster. ----------------------------------------------------------------- In other news, the Chieftec Dragon came back from the plastic repair shop today. The top section of the front panel is still worse for the wear, but nothing a little putty and sandpaper and a fresh coat of beige paint can't fix. They were able to just glue the original pegs back onto it that snap into the front of the steel. So that works even better than magnets! I'll update with pictures when I break it back out again to start the putty job on it. It might not be for a while since holidays are fast approaching, and I've got a kiddo's birthday right before Christmas that has to be special too. But progress is being made. I also just ordered a proper front panel monetary push button for the 939 case mod I've been working on, it'll arrive between November and February apparently. Typically its like 3-4 weeks though, so that's fine. Ordered that about a week ago now. Weller soldering station was also ordered, I was expecting it today but might not be till Monday now. The plexi side window of the proper size (better be for $42) actually did arrive today, so I can finish the side panel. I guess I could start assembling it now, but I'd kind of like the case to be finished before I start piling stuff into it. So its really just putting a window on the side panel, and soldering the buttons and LED's back to wires and I can build the 939 to completion next. Overall, I'm REALLY hoping to have all of these projects finished by my next birthday (April 2022). We'll see, there's still a lot of stuff to go through and a lot of parts still need ordering.

I'm at a roadblock currently. Sorry about lack of bench results. Trying to figure out a way to record the game play footage so y'all can see the same thing I'm seeing. This way if I'm claiming it's playable or not, you can see for yourself. Kind of thinking maybe using my laptop's camera and recording it that way. Also my nfs3 disc isn't working. Seems it's abandonware, but at the same time.... It's not really going to be a struggle to run on any of these machines. So I might take nfs3 out since it's not working atm anyway. If anyone has an alternative solution for recording the game play I'm all ears. But so far this seems to be the best method.

Oooh I didn't know about that one! I was referring to regular quake. The steam release now has 2 options, classic quake and the 2021 remaster. It's not rtx, but it's got multi-player, better graphics, and much better modern hw support. I just played the whole thing coop and had a blast at native res on my sig rig. Quake II is next on my list.

Have you tried the new version of Quake that's on Steam yet? Just finished all of it last night, man what a blast from the past! Looked and ran absolutely fantastic too.

From what I've been hearing about Win11 here, it seems like its decent so far. Personally, I'm not really all that happy with 10 and not sure I'd want to jump to 11 or not myself. I dislike all the integrated cloud features, don't like having to rely on daddy MS so much. Granted....I do use some of the stuff but only because I'm too lazy to setup my own versions of the same things, and lack of knowledge on how to. If they weren't pushing cloud computing so hard these days, I'd be more into it. If I want something on my desktop or laptop, I'll put it on there. If I don't want something on there, I expect to be able to not have it on there. Windows 10 doesn't allow that, and I doubt 11 will either. From an IT standpoint, I expect it to be just like jumping from Vista to 7. It'll be a jump, but compatibility will probably be just fine between the 2 OS's. It's going to be nowhere NEAR the headache of jumping from XP to Vista / 7. They've been building up Windows since Vista now right? Just like in the past they were building on what, basically Windows 3.1 (up until Vista). I think at the base level of the OS, it'll be very near the same. Note: I haven't tried 11 yet, so this is just my opinion. I HAVE, used every Windows OS to date, on release. I think this will be the first time I'm personally skipping one. If its forced on me, I might actually finally jump to Linux since it can now do everything I want it to.

Actually yes I kinda do want to come play with it. Oregon Trail on 5.25" floppy on an Apple II, and fixing parallel dot matrix printers for my school system in the 3rd grade is what got me started down hardware. On topic: Assuming Steam finishes downloading what I'm waiting for, 8350 / 290x benchmark suite is going to be getting started this evening. Figured I'd start with that rig as a baseline, since that's what I upgraded from to my sig rig. Well....kinda, I had a 3770k and RX 580, but the FX and 290x should be very very similar in performance anyway. EDIT: Late night bump (well edit). Working on the "benchmarks" on the FX rig now. Also debating on ways I can record the gameplay footage; maybe bust out my laptop and use its camera or something. Probably won't be updating tonight with the bench test results of the FX like I intended, but I'm running them as quickly as I can. I don't want to give updates till I have the entire bench suite completed.

Roger that. Thank you for the update.

I still have my original installers for 03, 06, Vantage, and 11. I just figured I'd use those since they were common back then. The newer 3DMark suites would be perfectly fine and suitable for all of my multi-core rigs (939 and newer), but I feel I might, MIGHT be able to run upwards of at least 06 on the super old single core rigs. My thought was trying to find a diverse set of benchmarks and games that I can run on literally every one of these machines (with exceptions of newer game titles). Of course I want to go all the way back! This is why a K6 is on my list of rigs to build. I mean TECHNICALLY speaking, I started on an Apple II, then a Centris 660AV, but I like to forget those days.......