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Audio issues, this happens no matter what, even at stock. All auto / defaults there's no audio with either onboard or the PCI card. I have not tested the PCI card elsewhere, but its odd because the card looks brand new and relatively basic for components. But yes, when I am overclocking (or attempting to), its multi only for the moment. Pretty basic, CPU clocks only so far. I have tried several fresh installs. Everytime it screws up on a restart and reverts to default UEFI settings, I have to reinstall as it says no boot device, even though its set correctly and screws up Windows (SSD is perfectly fine, was pulled from my previous gaming rig actually). I can try going down to 1 or 2 sticks of RAM. Hadn't thought of that, figured downclocking it to 1333 (2200 stable kit) and really bad timings with stock 1.65v would suffice. CPU-NB is set to stock 2GHz and I have tried upping CPU-NB voltage as high as 1.45v (stock 1.15v). Doesn't matter, doesn't change the outcome for any of these odd issues (the CPU-NB). I was attempting at the beginning to get 1600 RAM speeds and 2.8GHz CPU-NB to run (should be easy), but after a lot of failed attempts figured I'd try one thing at a time and went for CPU clocks first. Considering its now completely losing UEFI settings at bone stock, all auto, with a simple Windows restart almost everytime now....I'm leaning more towards bad motherboard somehow. It'd explain non working PCI slot (Southbridge instead of PCIe which is Northbridge), and it'd explain the non working onboard audio, as that's also southbridge. I'll bet a failing southbridge would also cause a CMOS / UEFI problem on POST. I think the southbridge on this board is screwed. -_- That'd cause literally all of this now that I really sit down and think about it.

With the onboard sound, its just Windows generic drivers. Nothing is missing, that's the weird thing. I did try off ASRock's website drivers, but no change. With the Xonar DG, I tried official Asus drivers that didn't detect the card, and I also tried custom modded drivers with the same problem. It's also now not wanting to restart without UEFI defaults, even at stock settings. I'm starting to think the board is faulty to some degree now. It refuses to hold UEFI settings, and that's with a brand new, fresh, CMOS battery installed. I'm almost thinking of buying another 990FX Sabertooth to replace it with, but this setup was SUPPOSED to be 890FX lol. The Phenom rig I have is 790FX, and the FX 8 core is 990FX. Grrr. Love first time setting up new used gear, only to find faults in it.

Looking for a little advice from people that have ran 890FX and these 6 core Thubans. I'm having some problems. I thought I had things sorted out (see this thread) and everything would be easy; just like my last Phenom II build I did back in I think 2008 ish? But yeah, I seem to be having some very odd issues with this build, and I'm left scratching my head because everything "seems" fine. Setup information: ASRock 890FX Deluxe 5 1100T 4x4GB Kingston HyperX DDR3-1600 (sticks have done 2200 stable in my 3770k) Coolermaster 240mm AIO eVGA 600BQ Gigabyte HD7970 Windforce Rev 2.1 SSD + Spinner drives Windows 10 (figured easiest OS to test things with) Both board and GPU are now on latest beta BIOS because compatibility is dead otherwise The problems: This one's been really odd since the beginning, even before BIOS swaps. I have absolutely zero analogue sound output. I've done the obvious things such as triple checked BIOS settings, attempted jumpers on the front panel plug, and even tried a sound card (Xonar DG PCI). Unless the PCI slots AND the onboard sound are dead, I just don't know (PCIe is fine, the GPU works). If I put in the Xonar, it says there's a multimedia device in device manager, says there's no drivers.....but the drivers say there's no Xonar installed so they quit. Onboard sound, it shows up in device manager as "HD Audio Device" or something along those lines.....but there's only the SPDIF output in the sound devices menu. Overclocking seems to be non existant. I thought these 1100T's did 4GHz+? -_- I'm getting lucky if I can even get 3.8GHz to run stable on this thing, and to be honest.....it hasn't actually passed stability tests yet. Everytime I leave it to run the tests, I come back and the machine is off, and the BIOS is complaining of failure and forces UEFI defaults. I'm not doing anything crazy (yet), just multiplier adjustments and voltage. I'd be happy if I could get 3.8GHz with 2.6GHz CPU-NB, but even that won't run. Seems I need roughly 1.47v for 3.8GHz or so, which is fine. Cooling is fine. But it shuts off at random HOURS later. I've been trying with and without CPU-NB adjustments, and so far...my RAM is still at 1333 until I get the CPU dialed in. I used to be a boss at Phenom II's, did I get a dud part somewhere? The whole thing is just weird. I'd blame the motherboard as a failure on both of these problems, but is it really? I mean.....when its set to defaults, it seems to operate just fine. I'm not seeing anything abnormal, it runs stress tests, it games. Maybe a 600w PSU just isn't enough for a Thuban and a 7970? I mean, I think it would be, I ran a 550w on my old quad with a 4890, and later on crossfire (with a 650w). I know a lot of you guys don't have setups like this anymore, but I know a lot of you used to. Figured somebody might have an idea.

I paid like $300 each for my RX580's in 2017. I mined on them for about a year. Made my money back and then some. Quit mining due to issues with the farm and my partner that was helping me with it. So decided to just get out of it. And now today, I could sell those dang cards used for double what I paid for them! I'm not, but I could lol. Agreed completely. It's pretty good when OLD cases are selling for $700. -_-

So I got some more work done today on the 939 chassis. Not too terribly happy with today's progress, but hey....progress is progress right? Apparently the 12"x12" sheet of smoked plexi that I bought for the side window, wasn't cut at 12x12, instead it was cut at 11 7/8" x 11 7/8". As such, it doesn't fit, as my bolt holes are like 11 3/4" center to center on the outside ones. Grrrr. I was able to get the new buttons drilled and mounted today though. I'll be ordering a soldering station soon (any recommendations?). This way I can get the wires connected the proper way. No more of this twisting and taping ghetto nonsense here! So, wiring will be done after payday, with pictures of course when I get it done. Old buttons vs new buttons. I kinda already broke the old buttons, so too late to turn back now! Hole drilled out, and the little plastic grabby things snapped off the backside of the case for the reset switch. Reset switch mounted Hole drilled for the power switch. And power switch mounted. Didn't realize this before, but its a "stay in" type of power button. Hopefully it'll still work, too late now lol. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And, just for giggles, here's the reason why the Thuban rig was taking so long. It's just my luck. Seriously. I'm now trying to get it stable now, but not having a whole lot of luck. Thing won't even run stable at 3.8GHz. I think I got a bad 1100T or something. Hard to say. I might just have to live with low clocks on my Thuban rig. Either way, this was the hold up on that one.

I am, yes. I love our side of the state very much. Just wish it wasn't burning to the ground right now lol. The land isn't mine, its family's. Sadly, I'm still a renter right now. I have been looking at a few properties to buy lately, but everytime I find one I like its already gone. I had moved to the west side in 2019, lived over there for about 8 months nearish to Centralia. Honestly the entire state is absolutely gorgeous. Seattle, if they'd figure their stuff out.....is a beautiful city with a very neat history. Lakewood was interesting, I'll just say that lol. Olympia, well....it was one of the nicer bigger cities I've seen. But then we also have just absolutely vast areas of nothing but wilderness. Not just forests but rainforests, mountains, volcanoes, canyons.....I love the PNW. I legally can't leave the state anyway because of custody problems, but I wouldn't want to leave WA anyway.

I currently have in stock an Opteron 165, x2 Toledo 3800+, and x2 Toledo 4200+. The Toledo CPU's were the ones to go after (same core as the Opterons). The 4200+ can pull 3.1GHz stable, which I was never able to get stable back in the day on my vast amount of 939 chips I went through. The Opteron, seems to want cold and high voltage, which makes sense as its a CCBBE. The 4200+ does 3.1 at just a hair over stock volts, which was also common for LCBxE chips, which that one is.....well was common to hit 3GHz. I don't recall many hitting 3.1 stable. I also have a single core chip of unknown quality and model number, but definitely a regular old Athlon. Haven't pulled that one out of the board to look at yet. I have 2 really good 939 boards on hand too, so I'll probably build two (3 if you count my dead-ish A8N32-SLI Deluxe). One for my "museum" piece, and another for playing around with. One needs an HD5870 in it to go with my theme, and then I have a pair of G92 GTS 250 1GB's that match for SLI lol. I've GOT to use SLI on it, but my themes are strictly AMD / ATI. This newly painted case is for my "museum" piece. Not sure which chip I want to put in it just yet, probably the 3GHz+ 4200+. But since its the same core as the Opterons, I think the Opteron logo is still fitting.

Update: Finally got the painting done today. But as with most of my updates, I'd like to share the whole story with ya'll. So, here in WA State, there's been some wildfires just a few miles away from where I am. Seems to be the usual as of lately, but whatever. As such, I had to wait for a day when it wasn't literally raining ash down all day. We finally had a break on Monday, so we were able to get started (today didn't look much different, so didn't take weather pictures today). Well, we were able to get one panel painted with nice clear skies at least. The big problem seems to be the wind with all this dead grass and dirt in the pasture here. That's okay though. We got this panel painted. And then, the smoke started rolling in. -_- Luckily we were indoors to paint, but this just shows you how badly the wind was blowing this day (Monday). We were able to get the initial couple of coats done on the whole case at least. Yes, I can see the dirt on it here in the pictures too. It's okay. We took a dinner break that evening and went to town for some nurishment. Seems the smoke followed us, of course. Well, at this point we decided to go ahead and call it quits on Monday. It was too windy, and the shop was too dusty to really get a good coat down without getting dirt or dead grass stuck in it. So we decided to wait till Wednesday (today) seeing as the weather was reporting that it'd be a clear / non windy day. So, let's fast forward to today's progress. Now, I couldn't get the logo EXACTLY perfect. I'm no master painter or anything like that. This is only the 2nd thing I've ever painted, ever, first being my old Honda. I think it turned out pretty nice though for an idiot out in a filthy shop. Here's taping progress. And then we have to put some black on there now. That was the next step after the green. And finalized products!!! Yes, I did do a couple coats of glossy black along the top of the case as well to match the black tone. Overall, I think this was a win! I'll be sanding the plexi down hopefully tomorrow and finding some bolts and nuts at the hardware store to hold that in. Of course drilling out the plexi as well. But that shouldn't take too long. But hey...I can now start my 939 build soon! Case isn't done QUITE yet, I've got a couple other mods to do to it (besides plexi). But I can start putting main components in at least......it'll free up some space on my shelves lol. Besides, I need to buy a soldering iron before I can do the next part of the case mod.

Ooof. That's one nasty gouge. I don't blame you for sending it back. If it works.....can always lap it though. But yeah, I understand wanting something that just works when it arrives.

Honestly was a fantastic find. Had I known about a 35w i7 with HT, I'd have bought that same CPU myself lol. Didn't even know that SKU existed.

I do have an Opteron, yes. It's also part of my surprise on the 939 rig. Just waiting for a clear enough day to paint it. EDIT: I have now officially started the painting process. Took a few pictures, but I'll share all of them in an update post when its completed. Smoke started blowing back our way this evening, so it might have to wait for another clear enough day.

Minor progress update: So updates are going to be a tad slow right now for financial reasons. Saving up to take that front panel down to the local plastics company in town, but they charge $150 / hour just to look at it. So, definitely gotta save up to get that fixed. Not buying another Chieftec Dragon as that'd be pointless since I have one. In the meantime, I DO have the remaining bits on order for the Thuban / Phenom II x6 rig with the HD7970 in it. I broke the retention bracket on the board, so have another of those on the way. It was working kind of, but then I broke that. Needed a HDD so bought a 4TB spinner. Also have a wifi card (Intel 7260) and sound card on the way for it as onboard sound was broken, so was a good excuse to buy a Xonar DG. I also have EVERYTHING here to do my Socket 939 build. The only thing I'm waiting for on that is a clear day to paint the case. It's still "raining ash" around here, so not going to paint it in those conditions. Otherwise, I'm done buying stuff for a little while, as I need to get that case repaired before I continue. Once the case is repaired, I'll be ordering what's left on the two Socket A rigs HOPEFULLY before Christmas, but we'll see. Then a K6 rig maybe, depending on availability, early next year. And these will all be done!

Been wondering what RX 580 crossfire would be like on my Ryzen. This would save me the hassle of trying to fabricate with zip ties a location for a second card in my tiny little case. Either way, custom cards are always neat to see in the wild. Nice to see dual GPU's making a comeback lately.

It's pretty typical IMO. I recall high clocked / low latency DDR3 beating the snot out of early DDR4. Same thing was true with DDR2 and DDR3, and back with DDR and DDR2. Once their processes mature some, DDR5 will take off as much faster. It's just still way too early to tell yet, that's all.

Android. Problem is, I pay monthly for OneDrive for the 1TB access. I'll work it out, I'd rather have my cloud storage locally on my own NAS anyway. Once I get my OPNsense router sorted out, I planned on doing like an FTP or something I could upload to instead. Too many projects and only so much concentration I can give lol.

Get one! Let's have some fun! No I did not know that AMD was sued over that. I knew these weren't a proper full 8 cores though, knew that since before they were released lol. These CPU's got so much bad press it was ridiculous and I honestly don't see why. It's not THAT bad of a CPU. It's certainly better than my Phenom II x6, and its not as good as my Ryzen 2600. I mean it sits right where it should for performance. Oops. I did not know that, never used the CPUz benchmark before. My bad. Take a 2600k's results from online and do some math? I've already put Linux Mint on it now. I can run it again next time I go Windows on it. I was honestly curious if I can get by daily on Linux. So far, Mint's not bad. Only complaint (so far) is lack of MS OneDrive to sync pictures and stuff with my phone. I can RDP into one of my many VM's though for that till I figure out an alternative (if I even need one). I have NOT gotten to try out any games yet on it though, Steam is still downloading. Nor have I attempted to install .exe games or .iso image games. Either of those might break my experience here. So far, I'm liking it though.

@UltraMega This one's for you. Ran the CPUz benchmark since I'm going to Mint on the FX rig now that I have an RX580 in it (don't feel like screwing with eyefinity just to get my monitor working). Here's the results of the CPUz bench. I chose a 2600k as the reference point CPU, figured it was the most fitting. Results really aren't surprising. About the same IPC as a stock 2600k core for core with the FX at 4.8GHz and the 2600k at stock. When jumping to multithreaded though, the 4 modules / 8 "cores" approach does in fact seem to work better than the 2600k's HT though.

Again, I'm no networking expert..... I am using an Asus B85M-G CSM/SI motherboard with an i5 4590T 35w quad core, which I was led to believe is Devil's Canyon. I figured if it is on 24/7, lower wattage is better. I also figured since people quite literally run routers on Atom based systems, an i5 of any generation is probably more than enough. I have your "standard home network" for the most part. Couple of streaming boxes, a couple computers, couple phones. The basics. Using a VPN now too though. My system under heavy network traffic load sees like 10% load. I'm barely using 1GB of RAM out of my 8 I think. And I'm using like 2-3GB of storage if that. 99% of the time, the system just sits there. My NAS sees a lot worse loads than the router does, that's for sure. My advice of a non expert? Go for something with decent performance in the last decade, but something as low power as you're willing to go (without sacrificing performance). It is an always on device afterall. 4490T's are still cheap, about the price of a 4770 non K. No HT......but do you really need HT for a router replacement when consumer routers run on what, ARM processors? If there's any special instruction sets needed, I couldn't tell you that one. You said you have an i3 right? Try it out! Your i3 you already have is free and at least its lower power than the i7 4790. Not being one of those energy conservative types by any means, but a router isn't exactly a place that needs a huge overclocked i7 / i9 / Ryzen. Look forward to your build regardless! EDIT: Forgot to mention too, my networking needs aren't necessarily the same as the next person's (obviously). I'm perfectly fine on 10/100/1000 for my router since the router doesn't necessarily need to affect the rest of the local network.

Update: Side panel of the replacement rosewill case just returned from the metal shop. Still no word on plastic working for the cheiftec. I might have to find another cheiftec dragon or something. Anyway, here's the new updated side panel. Paint is coming next! Waiting for a day when it's not snowing ash. -_- EDIT: On the note of updates. I decided to do another thing. I was able to use my FX rig to an advantage this evening. Had this old MSI RX 580 8GB Armor OC card laying around that I bricked over a year ago with a bad BIOS flash. Never had a system on hand with enough space, PCIe slots, and a big enough PSU to try to flash it again. I did think about using onboard GPU, but unfortunately my Ryzen 3600 lacks one. So finally, this evening, I put in my old GT310 "just because it works" card in the top PCIe slot. Put this RX 580 in the second slot with power hooked up. Booted to DOS, bam....after 4 failed flashes finally found the right BIOS for the card! Now that I found the right BIOS to the card, I flashed my slightly better overclock to it (1400 / 2050) with better fan profile (70*C instead of 75*C target temp). So now, the card runs 1400 / 2050, its alive, and benchmarks exactly the same as every other 580 in the house now! Here's a picture of the card in my FX system now.

On the FX rig? I can, yeah. I'm kind of in between at the moment, got the Phenom II x6 going last night so was working on getting it stable.

So far, here's what I've done.....ALMOST successfully. 1) Flashed the 7970 to the older F41 BIOS available directly from Gigabyte. The newer F3 BIOS (and leaked F8 BIOS) didn't want to POST in the 890FX. 2) The above F41 BIOS made the card unstable with 3D, BUT....it works in the 890FX. 3) Flashed the 890FX from BIOS 2.00 to 2.01 beta. Seems to work? Hasn't been very stable since the flash, but could be the GPU BIOS. 4) Switched 7970 BIOS switch to #2 once 890FX was flashed. It POST'ed. Never did get it to boot again. Note: After the 890FX BIOS flash, the BIOS was then UEFI instead of old school. Might be the bootup issue? 5) I'm now installing Win10 (again) using UEFI. F2 (stock) BIOS on the 7970 and latest beta 2.01 BIOS on the board. Seems to be working now. The card is 3D stable in the 990FX Sabertooth again using stock F2 BIOS on the card, whereas it wasn't on the F41 there either. It POST'd and installed Windows on the 890FX now. Maybe, just maybe it'll work??? EDIT: It's working. The 890FX now has the 7970 installed, 3D is working. So yeah, needed to update the motherboard's BIOS to a beta. Kind of a PITA since the 7970 is the card I bought for the rig. Stress testing the OC's now.

I remember this being an issue for people with LGA 1155 back in the day originally, but I don't recall hearing about people having this problem with AMD boards. Anybody know where I can start looking to fix this problem of my ASRock 890FX Deluxe5 (BIOS 2.00) not POST'ing with a Gigabyte Windforce HD7970 Rev 2.1? The board works fine, attempts to boot up just fine with a GeForce GT310 installed. The card works fine, I just pulled it a few days ago from my 990FX / FX 8350 rig. If the card is installed alone in the 890FX board, I just get an "error code 97" on the little display on the bottom of the board, and no picture at all, and no POST beep. It's got to be a BIOS issue, but there's no later BIOS's for the board that address anything like this. And I can't seem to find any GOOD results for the Windforce v2.1 being flashed to a different BIOS either.

Yeah, eyefinity will be about my only hope with the 290x and Linux. Same with windows. Native res isn't required but it'd be nice to have 3840x1080. I'll play around with it more later, I'm sure eyefinity is possible on Linux. Still working out the bugs in windows now that I know it's a card limitation. EDIT: Got the Thuban rig built this evening, and having issues with THAT one too, more serious issues. *Grumbles. The 7970 absolutely will not POST in this board. Tried every PCIe slot, and even tried a GT310 installed as primary GPU and using the 7970 as secondary. It just will not POST at all with the 7970 even present. Tried swapping the BIOS switch around too. I'll make a thread in the GPU section about it. Maybe somebody else has had this problem. I'll update with pictures once its functional. Not any good taking beauty shots when the insides are a mess right now.

I did figure out its not a Linux specific issue, its a 290x issue apparently. It won't run at native res in Windows either with my Ultrawide. I ended up having to run 7680x2160 in eyefinity with the latest drivers in Windows. I figured the 290x would be new enough to work out of the box with this screen. Latest Windows drivers do not allow you to customize the eyefinity resolution, so whatever it picks up, is what you get apparently. I'll be trying older drivers today, this res isn't going to work for gaming at all with an FX / 290x lol. And my screen is 5120x1440 anyway, was hoping for just simple 3840x1080 actually on it lol. So apparently, I'll need to figure out how to force the right resolution, in eyefinity, for Linux to work.

Agreed completely. A good SSD setup will get just about ANY rig made in the last 15 ish years (or longer) "usable" daily. Gaming just needs whatever GPU you need for your resolution and games, and I'd say at least a "good" quad core to be happy with "most" games. Obviously there's exceptions to those rules, but good general "minimum" requirements anyway. On that note too, my own FX rig apparently is NOT going Linux and neither am I. Apparently I cannot get 5120x1440 to work in Linux, something about the EDID not reporting correctly or something, I dunno. Linux terminal confuses me coming from a DOS / Windows background. So that kinda sucks. Was looking forward to swapping my main rig to Linux Mint or Kubuntu. Tried using the xandr (spelling?) tweaks to add in the resolution and refresh rate, but didn't seem to matter what I did, screen was garbled at any 32:9 resolution.