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Still waiting, still not really in a rush either though. Just didn't want anybody to think I collected my prize and was being a jerk not taking pictures.

That looks a lot heavier than the cheap plastic junk I'm using now. Would buy / 10. Looks really neat too!

I promise guys, bench results are coming soon. As stated previously, capture card is being ordered Monday or Tuesday (waiting on bank transfer). I think that'll be the best way to prove without a doubt if these titles are playable or not across all rigs. In the meantime, enjoy some modding progress. Kingwin 2002 Mid Tower Mod: Rosewill Challenger Case Mod:

@damric I don't think I'd trust myself to hold my phone and play at the same time. I was debating on using my laptop's built in webcam to record it, but a friend pointed out how horrible the webcam is on it. So......I'm buying a capture card. Should be here hopefully by end of next week. I'm only seeing a potential problem once the HDMI no longer passes audio through with it on the older cards that I'll have to use DVI adapters with. But I have a few backup plans for that anyway. Currently looking at the MyPin Game Live Box on Amazon for $90, looks like it'll do a fine job with all of these old rigs. That's really the only holdup on benching the rigs I have done. I want to be able to show you guys if its smooth gameplay or not, not just give benchmark numbers. Obviously the faster rigs are going to benchmark faster. ----------------------------------------------------------------- In other news, the Chieftec Dragon came back from the plastic repair shop today. The top section of the front panel is still worse for the wear, but nothing a little putty and sandpaper and a fresh coat of beige paint can't fix. They were able to just glue the original pegs back onto it that snap into the front of the steel. So that works even better than magnets! I'll update with pictures when I break it back out again to start the putty job on it. It might not be for a while since holidays are fast approaching, and I've got a kiddo's birthday right before Christmas that has to be special too. But progress is being made. I also just ordered a proper front panel monetary push button for the 939 case mod I've been working on, it'll arrive between November and February apparently. Typically its like 3-4 weeks though, so that's fine. Ordered that about a week ago now. Weller soldering station was also ordered, I was expecting it today but might not be till Monday now. The plexi side window of the proper size (better be for $42) actually did arrive today, so I can finish the side panel. I guess I could start assembling it now, but I'd kind of like the case to be finished before I start piling stuff into it. So its really just putting a window on the side panel, and soldering the buttons and LED's back to wires and I can build the 939 to completion next. Overall, I'm REALLY hoping to have all of these projects finished by my next birthday (April 2022). We'll see, there's still a lot of stuff to go through and a lot of parts still need ordering.

I'm at a roadblock currently. Sorry about lack of bench results. Trying to figure out a way to record the game play footage so y'all can see the same thing I'm seeing. This way if I'm claiming it's playable or not, you can see for yourself. Kind of thinking maybe using my laptop's camera and recording it that way. Also my nfs3 disc isn't working. Seems it's abandonware, but at the same time.... It's not really going to be a struggle to run on any of these machines. So I might take nfs3 out since it's not working atm anyway. If anyone has an alternative solution for recording the game play I'm all ears. But so far this seems to be the best method.

Oooh I didn't know about that one! I was referring to regular quake. The steam release now has 2 options, classic quake and the 2021 remaster. It's not rtx, but it's got multi-player, better graphics, and much better modern hw support. I just played the whole thing coop and had a blast at native res on my sig rig. Quake II is next on my list.

Have you tried the new version of Quake that's on Steam yet? Just finished all of it last night, man what a blast from the past! Looked and ran absolutely fantastic too.

From what I've been hearing about Win11 here, it seems like its decent so far. Personally, I'm not really all that happy with 10 and not sure I'd want to jump to 11 or not myself. I dislike all the integrated cloud features, don't like having to rely on daddy MS so much. Granted....I do use some of the stuff but only because I'm too lazy to setup my own versions of the same things, and lack of knowledge on how to. If they weren't pushing cloud computing so hard these days, I'd be more into it. If I want something on my desktop or laptop, I'll put it on there. If I don't want something on there, I expect to be able to not have it on there. Windows 10 doesn't allow that, and I doubt 11 will either. From an IT standpoint, I expect it to be just like jumping from Vista to 7. It'll be a jump, but compatibility will probably be just fine between the 2 OS's. It's going to be nowhere NEAR the headache of jumping from XP to Vista / 7. They've been building up Windows since Vista now right? Just like in the past they were building on what, basically Windows 3.1 (up until Vista). I think at the base level of the OS, it'll be very near the same. Note: I haven't tried 11 yet, so this is just my opinion. I HAVE, used every Windows OS to date, on release. I think this will be the first time I'm personally skipping one. If its forced on me, I might actually finally jump to Linux since it can now do everything I want it to.

Actually yes I kinda do want to come play with it. Oregon Trail on 5.25" floppy on an Apple II, and fixing parallel dot matrix printers for my school system in the 3rd grade is what got me started down hardware. On topic: Assuming Steam finishes downloading what I'm waiting for, 8350 / 290x benchmark suite is going to be getting started this evening. Figured I'd start with that rig as a baseline, since that's what I upgraded from to my sig rig. Well....kinda, I had a 3770k and RX 580, but the FX and 290x should be very very similar in performance anyway. EDIT: Late night bump (well edit). Working on the "benchmarks" on the FX rig now. Also debating on ways I can record the gameplay footage; maybe bust out my laptop and use its camera or something. Probably won't be updating tonight with the bench test results of the FX like I intended, but I'm running them as quickly as I can. I don't want to give updates till I have the entire bench suite completed.

Roger that. Thank you for the update.

I still have my original installers for 03, 06, Vantage, and 11. I just figured I'd use those since they were common back then. The newer 3DMark suites would be perfectly fine and suitable for all of my multi-core rigs (939 and newer), but I feel I might, MIGHT be able to run upwards of at least 06 on the super old single core rigs. My thought was trying to find a diverse set of benchmarks and games that I can run on literally every one of these machines (with exceptions of newer game titles). Of course I want to go all the way back! This is why a K6 is on my list of rigs to build. I mean TECHNICALLY speaking, I started on an Apple II, then a Centris 660AV, but I like to forget those days.......

Welcome to the forum! Pretty decent group of people here, you're right. There's some people that show off their epeen every once in a while. But its excusable because we just really like hardware around here, and at least here.....people usually don't do it in a demeaning way. I felt perfectly fine and at home here with a 3770k and RX580, same as I feel now with my measly 3600 and 5700XT. And yes, please do share what you can about what you like about software. It's one area I never got into, and would love to learn more about. Made a few self extracting executables out of rar's a few years back, that was about the extent of my "software dev".

Alright, feeling much better now. Getting things going again, I've picked out my benching list. This is going to take some time, but I think it'll be worth it when its done. I've updated the second post found here with the basic first draft of the spreedsheet. I'll fix the names and stuff later once I get going on the actual results. I noticed I haven't been entirely consistent with the pictures + benches being all in one post. I'll fix that up and the links in OP to the builds + benches once I get the benching actually started. I'd like to have at least one of the 939 rigs ready to run so I can test all the multi core systems together. I figured they should all be capable at 1080p for most of this.

So the bottom 4u system is my NAS, currently with a 64TB "Storage Space" array, need to add 5 more drives to it soon though. Next up 4u chassis is for VM's, various purposes. Testing, serving purposes, etc, etc. 1u system above that is my OPNSense router (not built yet, currently in a beige box). Shelf with KVM switch, modem, and UPS's for the rack. Next shelf is SUPPOSED to be for a home theater receiver (eventually planned). Shelf above that, just peeking above the top is my wifi AP's. OS: Various, but mostly Win10 LTSC Case: PLink 4u chassis' CPU: Xeons (dual 6 core Haswells in NAS / dual 16 core + HT in the VM) Motherboard: Supermicro LGA 2011 dual socket boards Memory: Currently 8GB in the NAS / 88GB in the VM, but intend on expanding soon PSU: Coolermaster 750w units OS SSD (it SHOULD be an SSD lmao): 120GB Crucial BX500's Storage Mediums(s): WD 14TB x5 / Toshiba 3TB x2 / 2TB NVME Server Manufacturer (Ex: Dell, HP, You?): Self made some pix would be nice lawl (Of course they would be) Whole system assembled NAS 4u system: VM 4u system: Internal pictures were taken mid build, I promise there's 750w Coolermaster PSU's in there lol. I think these pictures might be missing the scratch drives I put into the VM box too, but whatever. I'm not about to cut my hands up tearing them apart anytime soon unless I have to though. Sorry. I thought I shared these here already, guess not. Must've been a different forum. *shrugs

Just an FYI to the team: I've been under the weather since Thursday, so I haven't been able to check my folding rig. If its down, my apologies, I can't get to it right now. I'll be back up to 100% here in the next day or so. I'll be fine, no worries. Nothing too serious, but definitely debilitating for a few days. With any luck though, it SHOULD still be running. I might double check it tonight now that I can get up and move around some. Normally I check it once a day, only reason I'm letting you guys know, just in case something happened and its not online right now.

My apologies everyone, been ill since my last post. Finally got enough energy to even make it to my computer today, so yay! I'm still working on getting a benchmark suite for "all" the rigs (what they run anyway). I'm still going to be getting that going. Probably going to include Quake, Duke Nukem, older 3D Mark suites, and the usual Unigine stuff, Crysis, RDR2, etc, etc. Probably going to be a pretty long list. Also, still working out how I'm going to organize all of that in a post. I should be back to nearly 100% tomorrow or the next day, so I'll be able to focus more of my attention on that very soon. Again, my apologies to anyone that was wanting to see benchmarks on all this junk. I "should" be able to benchmark both of the K7 Athlon setups too, even though they're not complete. I have the main parts here, so should be something I can cobble together. I also got the plexi in for the 939 rig, but its 1/4" thick instead of 1/8" thick. So I'll have to double check with the cooler installed if that'll fit.

I think I'll be doing nearly the same benches that I did on the Phenom rig on this one (the Thuban). Going to ATTEMPT to run Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2, and Crysis Remastered as well on it if they'll run. Still waiting for things to install on it, its rock solid stable where its clocked at. Just waiting for the slow wifi connection to get everything downloaded. EDIT: Actually come to think of it, I probably need to setup a proper series of benchmarks and games to run for comparison. I'll see about updating one of the first posts with benchmark results somehow.

Let's see if I can keep up here with my upgrade paths. I'm only going to mention "modern upgrades" that I've gone through. Played with many many others, but usually past their prime time. AMD K6 -> AMD K7 -> AMD K7 Athlon XP -> Pentium 4 (I kept lighting the Athlons on fire) -> Socket 939 Manny x2 -> Socket 939 Opteron -> Athlon II quad -> 2500k -> 2600k (I killed 2, so had 3 total) -> 3770k for a month -> Current Ryzen 3600 rig (and now this "museum" collection) Joined forum discussions with the Manny x2 (where I really started learning), joined EXHW with the 3770k if I recall correctly. Everything before the 939 setup was just me goofing off with what the local PC shop sold me. Saw jumpers that increased clocks, voltages, RAM speeds, etc....so I played with them. I saw BIOS options referring to those same jumper settings and even more, so I played with them. Had every rig from the K6 upwards overclocked (hence the Athlon XP fires). Basically what I'm getting at, is that I really want to upgrade my 3600 again lol. The only, ONLY reason I jumped into the 3600 was because my 3770k delid went terribly (too much liquid metal). As such, I was out of options since that was one of my only rigs at the time (that + my "server"). Was originally just wanting a 1600AF or 2600, but the 3600 somehow was cheaper at the time of purchase. My 3770k was more than fine for my uses at the time, so didn't see the need. Kinda screwed me on getting an x470 board like I wanted, but whatever. My board will take a 5900x or whatever the top end is now. It's not like real overclocking is even really a thing anyway, and the VRM's on this board are sufficient for PBO. Meh. I fell for shiny too, its okay. I'm making up for it now buy buying thousands in junk.

I forgot about the HAF line up! Love to hate them, with their haf way attempted cable management, and haf butted looks. All that mesh only allowing haf the airflow. Loved the jokes one could make about those cases. Seriously, they were pretty good cases, yeah I'll definitely keep an eye out for one. Could replace one of these cheapie DIYPC cases I picked up. I'm pretty sure I was still on a Socket 939 Opteron 165 when the 1100T came out. I didn't upgrade till Sandy Bridge, and even then it was into an unlockable Athlon II quad lol. Quickly dropped that for a 2500k though once I saw the performance difference. ------------------------------------------------------ Looks like I got the Thuban stable though. It's passed 16 hours and 30 minutes so far of P95 blended. Unfortunately it didn't like memory speed much past 800MHz, so I stayed at 200MHz FSB. Tried 833MHz on the RAM, no go on stability. Tried every little trick I could think of to up the FSB, and every time it'd crash sometime into testing. Same clock speeds on everything EXCEPT the FSB and RAM speeds.....its stable. So yeah, the IMC on this Thuban isn't good for much past 800MHz. I kind of expected that. Screenshots and benches will be coming shortly. Willing to take recommendations, I'll probably run the benches on it tomorrow night. If I don't hear anything, I'll probably run similar style to the FX and Phenom since this one's kind of right in the middle.

Update Tuesday reeking havoc yet again in my house. All 24/7 rigs are currently offline doing stupid updates so they don't bug me again for another month. As such, my team folding rig is currently offline for about 30 minutes or so. Just figured I'd let the team know.

So apparently BIOS F3 for the 990FX-UD3 ver4.0 doesn't work with Thubans very well. Makes sense, probably a mostly FX BIOS or something. Flashed it back to F2, and overclocking is working again. Stay tuned to see how much I torture this 1100T. Preliminary results aren't looking "great", but decent at least now that I have a functioning board. Seems like 4.1GHz is right about the sweet spot with this chip. Throwing that out there, but not giving away what the CPU-NB is at, FSB, or the RAM. Just because I don't want to jinx myself and it not be stable.

Looking good damric! Question, would it be better if I pulled the RX 580 (on the next down day), and swapped it out for a 290x or a 7970 or something else? I'm seeing a lot of people using older cards on this, maybe my 580 isn't the best card for the job? I won't use my 5700, but any of my other cards are on the table to use.