Numba WAN in the world.

[Avacado]

1 hour ago, damric said:

I see.

 

Well I can't say I'm too particularly fold of too many brands, but I generally do choose SuperFlower PSUs ever since my first Rosewill Capstone because they generally have good performance per price value and solid ripple suppression for overclocking. I generally hate Corsair anything, but especially their RAM lol.

Corsair peripherals are good. I have 4 in service Super Flower PSU's too.

 

[PCSarge]

2 hours ago, damric said:

I see.

 

Well I can't say I'm too particularly fold of too many brands, but I generally do choose SuperFlower PSUs ever since my first Rosewill Capstone because they generally have good performance per price value and solid ripple suppression for overclocking. I generally hate Corsair anything, but especially their RAM lol.

see most wil lturn thier nose up at me for this, but i have logitech lightspeed peripherals A G703 mouse and a G915 TKL keyboard. wireless has little to no latency anymore so i see no reason to fight it.

 

PSUs wise, i was guilty of using corsair for many years, recently my sig rig got a 1000W Silverstone SFX-L unit that ive been happy with. theres a 750W corsair SFX PSU on my bench, cause i wasnt about to buy another psu at this price gouge point. nor can i afford it as a college student

[Storm-Chaser]

Managed a few good runs for the day.

 

[Avacado]

4 hours ago, Storm-Chaser said:

Managed a few good runs for the day.

 

Nice! 11.6 Global points on that GB3

[Bastiaan_NL]

14 hours ago, PCSarge said:

@Bastiaan_NL and @Avacado are nvidia guys, bastian even lit his cheapazz chips benching ATI card on fire when he was done and sent me a video of it.

I'm not an nvidia guy, I use a product that works for me. I've owned at least 8 AMD cards, if not more. 
Sucks for AMD, but their GPU's are really bad at folding@home which is why I have so many nvidia cards instead. 

And the burned GPU was a 46something I think, not the cheapaz card

 

14 hours ago, damric said:

I see.

 

Well I can't say I'm too particularly fold of too many brands, but I generally do choose SuperFlower PSUs ever since my first Rosewill Capstone because they generally have good performance per price value and solid ripple suppression for overclocking. I generally hate Corsair anything, but especially their RAM lol.

I have a few brands I like, though that sometimes changes after a few years. I used Logitech for years, but my current mouse and keyboard are Corsair.
PSU's have been Corsair for as long as I can remember, nvidia GPU's are EVGA, fans are Corsair, pumps are Aquacomputer D5's, memory from G.Skill, radiators from Alphacool and so on...

 

8 hours ago, Storm-Chaser said:

Managed a few good runs for the day.

 

Nice work @Storm-Chaser!
I also like that Dutch flag on top  

[Storm-Chaser]

1 hour ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

I'm not an nvidia guy, I use a product that works for me. I've owned at least 8 AMD cards, if not more. 
Sucks for AMD, but their GPU's are really bad at folding@home which is why I have so many nvidia cards instead. 

And the burned GPU was a 46something I think, not the cheapaz card

 

I have a few brands I like, though that sometimes changes after a few years. I used Logitech for years, but my current mouse and keyboard are Corsair.
PSU's have been Corsair for as long as I can remember, nvidia GPU's are EVGA, fans are Corsair, pumps are Aquacomputer D5's, memory from G.Skill, radiators from Alphacool and so on...

 

Nice work @Storm-Chaser!
I also like that Dutch flag on top  

All bases are now covered. 

Your RTX 3090 in first place

And my GT 710 in last place. 

 

 

[Avacado]

24 minutes ago, Storm-Chaser said:

All bases are now covered. 

Your RTX 3090 in first place

And my GT 710 in last place. 

 

 

GT710 volt mod

[J7SC_Orion]

7 hours ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

I'm not an nvidia guy, I use a product that works for me. I've owned at least 8 AMD cards, if not more. 
Sucks for AMD, but their GPU's are really bad at folding@home which is why I have so many nvidia cards instead. 

And the burned GPU was a 46something I think, not the cheapaz card

(...)

I also like that Dutch flag on top  

 

...yeah, anyone who limits themselves re. hardware choices - much less when competing at HWBot - should have a thoroughly long vacation filled with mental days. I own about twice as many NVidia as AMD GPUs, but heck, I might even add one of those upcoming (if ever released...) Intel discreet GPUs if those are shown to work well.

 

In my latest build, w/ everything at 24C ambient, the 3090 w-cooled Strix beats the w-cooled 6900XT most of the time at 4K and/or ray tracing, but the AMD rips well past 24.1k graphics in Time Spy, to name just one example. It is also a 3x8 pin PCB just like the NVidia, and frankly has way more fun options to super-tune, thanks to MPT etc....stock, the AMD is limited to 303W max, now it is running 500W, and I could push it to 600W (but won't). Granted, the 3090 is running 520W (potentially up to 1kw vbios, but I haven't run that one so far either). The amount of fiddling one can do for extra HWBot scores as a result is relatively more limited, unless you are running a Kingpin or Galax Ampere, and/or the 1kw XOC vbios. The AMD is MAD fun just to fool around with, the NVidia is the more focused pure-blood racehorse. Obviously, all this does not focus on folding@home, mining etc which can be a different ballgame.

 

Either way though, looking at leaks re. next-gen GPUs by both AMD and NVidia, it is going to be a crazy PL fight at the top end, much like the muscle car era in the late 1960s/early '70s. That in turns means getting some really good hi-po PSUs...not just by the numbers on the box, but re. ripple et al. GPUs with 600W max on stock vbios are just around the corner, never mind those spy shots of upcoming GPU PCBs with two 600W connectors 

 

 

Edited May 30, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[PCSarge]

4 hours ago, J7SC_Orion said:

 

...yeah, anyone who limits themselves re. hardware choices - much less when competing at HWBot - should have a thoroughly long vacation filled with mental days. I own about twice as many NVidia as AMD GPUs, but heck, I might even add one of those upcoming (if ever released...) Intel discreet GPUs if those are shown to work well.

 

In my latest build, w/ everything at 24C ambient, the 3090 w-cooled Strix beats the w-cooled 6900XT most of the time at 4K and/or ray tracing, but the AMD rips well past 24.1k graphics in Time Spy, to name just one example. It is also a 3x8 pin PCB just like the NVidia, and frankly has way more fun options to super-tune, thanks to MPT etc....stock, the AMD is limited to 303W max, now it is running 500W, and I could push it to 600W (but won't). Granted, the 3090 is running 520W (potentially up to 1kw vbios, but I haven't run that one so far either). The amount of fiddling one can do for extra HWBot scores as a result is relatively more limited, unless you are running a Kingpin or Galax Ampere, and/or the 1kw XOC vbios. The AMD is MAD fun just to fool around with, the NVidia is the more focused pure-blood racehorse. Obviously, all this does not focus on folding@home, mining etc which can be a different ballgame.

 

Either way though, looking at leaks re. next-gen GPUs by both AMD and NVidia, it is going to be a crazy PL fight at the top end, much like the muscle car era in the late 1960s/early '70s. That in turns means getting some really good hi-po PSUs...not just by the numbers on the box, but re. ripple et al. GPUs with 600W max on stock vbios are just around the corner, never mind those spy shots of upcoming GPU PCBs with two 600W connectors 

 

 

its coming to a point where the arms race is ending with us spending more money to power the monster, which is going to put high end out of reach for alot more people. if your already spending $2000+ on a card, itll be hard to swallow another $400-$500+ for a PSU for alot of people. the point of diminishing returns has been reached but they continue to push.  @Avacado and @Bastiaan_NL know we throw banter back and forth at eachother constantly, if i owned half of what either of them owns in hardware id be in nirvana and they know it.

[Avacado]

7 hours ago, PCSarge said:

its coming to a point where the arms race is ending with us spending more money to power the monster, which is going to put high end out of reach for alot more people. if your already spending $2000+ on a card, itll be hard to swallow another $400-$500+ for a PSU for alot of people. the point of diminishing returns has been reached but they continue to push.  @Avacado and @Bastiaan_NL know we throw banter back and forth at eachother constantly, if i owned half of what either of them owns in hardware id be in nirvana and they know it.

Its true, we are fortunate. Spending catches up with all of us at some point. I splurged for a bit. But the highest card I own is a  single 3070ti. Just sayin. I'm pretty sure that Bastiaans 2x3090's are worth more than every card in my inventory

Edited May 31, 2022 by Avacado

[Sir Beregond]

My Corsair PSUs have always lasted a very long time, so I keep buying them. Just have to make sure you don't buy the crappy models, example an RM1000 vs a RM1000X. But basically all my old TX and AX PSUs are a decade or older at this point, that said, am phasing them out.

 

I don't know who their OEM is now for the good units, but I know some of the older ones were Seasonic. I also like that they do have sleeved cable packs you can buy separately since I don't trust most cable extensions and such.

 

But that's about all I like from Corsair still these days.

 

EDIT: Also they replaced an AX1200 for me back in the day when I broke the fan on accident with no hassle. So they've done fine by me in the PSU department.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Sir Beregond

[Storm-Chaser]

My go to PSU has always been Antec. They seem to do very well in fact I am still running the one I purchased for my Phenom  II X6 project back in like 2012. 

Edited May 31, 2022 by Storm-Chaser

[Avacado]

1 minute ago, Storm-Chaser said:

My go to PSUS has always been Antec. They seem to do very well in fact I am still running the one I purchased for my Phenom  II X6 project back in like 2012. 

Their cases were the bomb. The Antec 900 was an absolute beast when it came out. I always wanted to get a hold of a 1200, and still do. But never found one. 

[Sir Beregond]

1 hour ago, Avacado said:

Their cases were the bomb. The Antec 900 was an absolute beast when it came out. I always wanted to get a hold of a 1200, and still do. But never found one. 

Man that takes me back. Antec 300 was one of my first cases and while not mine, we had another PC in the house in a 900. Great cases for what they cost.

[J7SC_Orion]

3 hours ago, Avacado said:

Their cases were the bomb. The Antec 900 was an absolute beast when it came out. I always wanted to get a hold of a 1200, and still do. But never found one. 

 

1 hour ago, Sir Beregond said:

Man that takes me back. Antec 300 was one of my first cases and while not mine, we had another PC in the house in a 900. Great cases for what they cost.

 

I bought three Antec 300s in late '12, and two are still in use for light office duty, while the third is the 1080P SLI retro gamer w/ some extra 'dremel air flow' mods on the side panel 

 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2022 by J7SC_Orion

[Mr. Fox]

I am definitely going to have to delid this bad boy. The temps are just way too high with the stock solder, even running on the chiller. The voltage needs are nice and low.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5029695_

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Mr. Fox`s Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate score: 31445 cb with a Core i9 12900KS

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The Core i9 12900KS @ 5500MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #null worldwide and #11 in the hardware class. Find out more at...

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5029753_

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Mr. Fox`s Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate score: 31711 cb with a Core i9 12900KS

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The Core i9 12900KS @ 5500MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the Cinebench - R23 Multi Core with BenchMate benchmark. Mr. Foxranks #null worldwide and #9 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

 

 

Side note: My delidded golden 12900K is also working nicely in Banshee. I am using it for work, running stable and cool at 53x on P-cores, 42x on E-core, 43x cache with 4000 15-16-16-36 2T G1. It's nice having the luxury of using a second system running in 24/7 beast mode for the day-to-day work of doing my job.

Edited June 30, 2022 by Mr. Fox

[Mr. Fox]

On 30/06/2022 at 12:11, Mr. Fox said:

I am definitely going to have to delid this bad boy. The temps are just way too high with the stock solder, even running on the chiller. The voltage needs are nice and low.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5029695_

 

 

OK, the damage is done. Delidded with liquid metal on both sides of the IHS and NO CHILLER in this test. 55x all P-cores at 1.410V override.

I'd call this a major win. Compared with the temps shown above running with the chiller and KPX thermal paste before delid... yay.

[Avacado]

Pretty sick. my 12900KF is somewhere in the 27k range on auto. 

[Bastiaan_NL]

On 04/07/2022 at 02:36, Mr. Fox said:

OK, the damage is done. Delidded with liquid metal on both sides of the IHS and NO CHILLER in this test. 55x all P-cores at 1.410V override.

I'd call this a major win. Compared with the temps shown above running with the chiller and KPX thermal paste before delid... yay.

Nice work Mr.Fox, temps look good too!
I have no clue what my system does on R23, I doubt I ever tried..

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Nice work Mr.Fox, temps look good too!
I have no clue what my system does on R23, I doubt I ever tried..

Thanks, Bro!  

Other than having a "fluffy" higher number scoring mechanism to psychologically influence the kiddos, R20 and R23 do not seem much different from a benchmark perspective. 

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Nice work Mr.Fox, temps look good too!
I have no clue what my system does on R23, I doubt I ever tried..

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thanks, Bro!  

Other than having a "fluffy" higher number scoring mechanism to psychologically influence the kiddos, R20 and R23 do not seem much different from a benchmark perspective. 

Now that I think about it, R23 may have been introduced to block Windows 7 users from opening a can of whoop-ass on other (newer) Windoze users. R20 runs like banshee on Windows 7. R23 won't launch on Windows 7.  One of the challenges the Redmond Mafia has had getting people to move to their newer trash OSes is Windows 7 outperforms everything they have released as a wannabe replacement. They've had 7 years to get Windoz 1x right (10 years if you include Winduhz 8.x) and success seems to be beyond their skill set.

[The Pook]

15 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Now that I think about it, R23 may have been introduced to block Windows 7 users from opening a can of whoop-ass on other (newer) Windoze users. 

 

CB23 works fine on 8.1 and 8.1 EIP poos on W10 in CB. I'd imagine even vanilla 8.1 would still eek out a bit more points than 10. 

[Avacado]

1 hour ago, The Pook said:

 

CB23 works fine on 8.1 and 8.1 EIP poos on W10 in CB. I'd imagine even vanilla 8.1 would still eek out a bit more points than 10. 

I know you linked it before, but I think that DL link was broken some how. Can you re-link the 8.1 bench OS again master Oogway? Pweeeas.

[The Pook]

it's not a bench OS, it's just an OS for embedded systems. embedded systems = low end = OS optimized for potato PCs = gud 4 hwbot

 

Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry Pro Evaluation

WWW.MICROSOFT.COM

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Windows Embedded 8.1 Industry extends Windows 8.1 to a range of edge devices across retail, manufacturing, healthcare and any other industries.

 

there's "Windows 9" which is what I use but it's not a really bench OS either, it's just 8.1 EIP with a pre-applied skin/theme to make it lo look like Windows 7: 

 

Windows 9

WWW.EASTCOAST.HOSTING

 

you're still gonna want to do some tweaks yourself to get the most out of it but it should do better out of the box in CPU benchmarks. not so much in DX. 

Edited July 6, 2022 by The Pook

[Bastiaan_NL]

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