ended Folding@Home 20th Anniversary Folding Competition - Lots of prizes up for grabs !

[damric]

I threw in an HD 7850 and GTX 980, as well as another Ryzen. I might be able to get 1 more rig up tomorrow

[Avacado]

How effing great and frustrating at the same time. GPU-z detects them all, yet only 3/5 work. These cards don't like advanced @ENTERPRISE

 

 

[franz]

58 minutes ago, InverseTundra said:

Did they update how WU are cranked out in the year since i last folded. I dont ever remember the client telling me 2.8mil ppd with 2x 980ti's. Or is it like a welcome back bonus 

There was an improvement in drivers last fall that boosted nvidia performance about 20-30% depending on GPU.  I average 2.5mil on 1070s so 2.8 on your setup seems reasonable.

[tictoc]

1 hour ago, InverseTundra said:

Did they update how WU are cranked out in the year since i last folded. I dont ever remember the client telling me 2.8mil ppd with 2x 980ti's. Or is it like a welcome back bonus 

 

10 minutes ago, franz said:

There was an improvement in drivers last fall that boosted nvidia performance about 20-30% depending on GPU.  I average 2.5mil on 1070s so 2.8 on your setup seems reasonable.

 

The major uptick in ppd for NVIDIA GPUs is from the new Core_22 WUs which are running on CUDA rather than OpenCL.  Performance boost across the board is 25% or so, with some WUs doing even better than that.

[axipher]

Okay, last update for tonight since I'm doing them manually every hour or so, need to sleep, so will see a big jump in stats in about 7-8 hours when I do the next update.

[ENTERPRISE]

7 hours ago, Avacado said:

How effing great and frustrating at the same time. GPU-z detects them all, yet only 3/5 work. These cards don't like advanced @ENTERPRISE

 

 

 

Hmmm that is worrying. When you say they do not like "Advanced" what do you mean by that bud ? I am being slow haha. Already got 6 of these on order lol.

[damric]

You guys have some compute beast machines!

 

I'm trying my hardest to get all possible cards in the house online. 

 

So far: 3 Ryzens, 2 Vega (56+64), GTX 980, HD 7850. About to try and get another HD 7850 and an R3 350 up and running too lol.

[Avacado]

2 hours ago, ENTERPRISE said:

 

Hmmm that is worrying. When you say they do not like "Advanced" what do you mean by that bud ? I am being slow haha. Already got 6 of these on order lol.

They do not like advanced WU's. I wouldn't ever try to BETA tag the M40's. Interestingly enough they have CUDA 5.2 and I have had them run the advanced units successfully, but is sporadic. When I have the time, I will need to do a deep dive on their drivers, I had loaded the CUDA drivers from Nvidias site, but they range from 7.5 to 11.2, Will have to play with them more to get better stability. 

 

 

Basically, they have been running OpenCL instead of CUDA, which is weird because they have run CUDA before.  It might just be a driver thing for sure, as I swapped MOBOs last night. Might need to clean install OS and Tesla Drivers. Looking forward to getting the bifurcation cards as well.  Also as previously mentioned, I think 2 of the cards are dying. Make sure you get these tested asap to make a return if needed. I also have 3 more coming tomorrow.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/tesla-m40.c2771

 

 

Lastly, the cards would probably benefit big time from new thermal paste, considering they are 6 years old at this point and what we've bought has probably been working non-stopped in some data center somewhere. Will need a free weekend and A LOT of beer to get that tall order completed. 

 

At the end of the day, the numbers don't lie. If you can get them working right, for 120$, the M40 is hands down the highest PPD potential (Maybe not the most efficient) card on the market. They don't mine well, so they aren't being bought up by miners. 

 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Avacado

[tictoc]

No reason to run an ancient version of CUDA, and I believe that you will need at least CUDA version 9 to run the F@H CUDA WUs.

 

After you install the latest drivers I would delete the cores in your F@H data folder, and then start the client.  The client will automatically download new cores at start up. 

[Avacado]

10 minutes ago, tictoc said:

No reason to run an ancient version of CUDA, and I believe that you will need at least CUDA version 9 to run the F@H CUDA WUs.

 

After you install the latest drivers I would delete the cores in your F@H data folder, and then start the client.  The client will automatically download new cores at start up. 

Interesting and thank you for the tip!

 

"Should automatically enable CUDA support with Keplar and later GPU's." The M40 Is Maxwell. Again. I HAVE had them run CUDA before. I am thinking I just need to wipe and re-install everything. 

 

Link: https://foldingathome.org/2020/09/28/foldingathome-gets-cuda-support/

To get the most performance out of the new CUDA-enabled core, be sure to update your NVIDIA drivers! There’s no need to install the CUDA Toolkit.

While core22 0.0.13 should automatically enable CUDA support for Kepler and later NVIDIA GPU architectures, if you encounter any issues, please see the Folding Forum for help in troubleshooting. 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Avacado

[tictoc]

Didn't notice that you were on Windows, so not sure how that all works.  I know that CUDA is bundled with the GeForce/RTX drivers, but I'm not positive if that's the case with the Tesla drivers.  Are these the drivers you installed? https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/170719/en-us

Edited February 23, 2021 by tictoc

[damric]

I have 4 computers crunching now. I had to leave a couple cores and integrated graphics idle for my kids to do schoolwork. My son and I configured a ghetto compute rig from spare parts in about 90 minutes this morning. I know I got a late start (time zone), but I'm trying hard to get some sort of prize lol. This is exciting, my son picked covid-19, my wife picked alzhemers, and we're running general on the two others. I have one more weak quadro (like 8400 chipset lol) to throw in later after my kids get done with school.

[BWG]

@axipherare the stats updated yet? 

[Avacado]

8 minutes ago, tictoc said:

Didn't notice that you were on Windows, so not sure how that all works.  I know that CUDA is bundled with the GeForce/RTX drivers, but I'm not positive if that's the case with the Tesla drivers.  Are these the drivers you installed? https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/170719/en-us

Yes. But the more we talk the more I am honing in on DDU and a fresh windows install. Will have time to test Wednesday. 

[Avacado]

You alright there @Bastiaan_NL? Better get that 2nd 3090 going hoss.

 

AND..... Lets get the day started right.@Minotaurtoo

 

 

Can you feel it? Can you feel it coming in the air tonight? I know I can.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Avacado

[Bastiaan_NL]

1 hour ago, damric said:

I have 4 computers crunching now. I had to leave a couple cores and integrated graphics idle for my kids to do schoolwork. My son and I configured a ghetto compute rig from spare parts in about 90 minutes this morning. I know I got a late start (time zone), but I'm trying hard to get some sort of prize lol. This is exciting, my son picked covid-19, my wife picked alzhemers, and we're running general on the two others. I have one more weak quadro (like 8400 chipset lol) to throw in later after my kids get done with school.

Thanks for joining us

 

 

58 minutes ago, Avacado said:

You alright there @Bastiaan_NL? Better get that 2nd 3090 going hoss.

 

Can you feel it? Can you feel it coming in the air tonight? I know I can.

Nah I'm fine, I have some spare hardware that'll go online as soon as I'm scared. 
I enjoy some good competition, so for now I'll leave it like this 

[ENTERPRISE]

3 hours ago, Avacado said:

They do not like advanced WU's. I wouldn't ever try to BETA tag the M40's. Interestingly enough they have CUDA 5.2 and I have had them run the advanced units successfully, but is sporadic. When I have the time, I will need to do a deep dive on their drivers, I had loaded the CUDA drivers from Nvidias site, but they range from 7.5 to 11.2, Will have to play with them more to get better stability. 

 

 

Basically, they have been running OpenCL instead of CUDA, which is weird because they have run CUDA before.  It might just be a driver thing for sure, as I swapped MOBOs last night. Might need to clean install OS and Tesla Drivers. Looking forward to getting the bifurcation cards as well.  Also as previously mentioned, I think 2 of the cards are dying. Make sure you get these tested asap to make a return if needed. I also have 3 more coming tomorrow.

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/tesla-m40.c2771

 

 

Lastly, the cards would probably benefit big time from new thermal paste, considering they are 6 years old at this point and what we've bought has probably been working non-stopped in some data center somewhere. Will need a free weekend and A LOT of beer to get that tall order completed. 

 

At the end of the day, the numbers don't lie. If you can get them working right, for 120$, the M40 is hands down the highest PPD potential (Maybe not the most efficient) card on the market. They don't mine well, so they aren't being bought up by miners. 

 

 

Thanks very much for the insight, plus that is a very good point. Will test the cards but then take them all down for a good clean and re-paste as 6 years is a long while for factory paste to still be all that efficient. Looks like I will have to buy myself a good quantity of Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. Let us know how you get on with your investigation/windows fresh install. Any tips you find may save me and others a lot of hassle haha.

[axipher]

1 hour ago, BWG said:

@axipherare the stats updated yet? 

 

Yep, you're just not hitting refresh hard enough.

[Avacado]

8 minutes ago, axipher said:

 

Yep, you're just not hitting refresh hard enough.

[J7SC_Orion]

1 hour ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Thanks for joining us

 

 

Nah I'm fine, I have some spare hardware that'll go online as soon as I'm scared. 
I enjoy some good competition, so for now I'll leave it like this 

 

...you play poker a lot ? 

[Minotaurtoo]

2 hours ago, Avacado said:

 

 

AND..... Lets get the day started right.@Minotaurtoo

 

 

Can you feel it? Can you feel it coming in the air tonight? I know I can.

 

 

 

 

yay, moving on up... wish I had some more hardware to throw at it.... 

1 hour ago, Bastiaan_NL said:

Thanks for joining us

 

 

Nah I'm fine, I have some spare hardware that'll go online as soon as I'm scared. 
I enjoy some good competition, so for now I'll leave it like this 

This guy... millions of points a day and comes in all "I have some spare hardware"  meanwhile, I'm installing folding at home on my tv remotes and my wii U hoping for a little help lol... wondering if this gaming keyboard can help... it has RGB so that means it's fast right?

[Avacado]

5 minutes ago, Minotaurtoo said:

yay, moving on up... wish I had some more hardware to throw at it.... 

This guy... millions of points a day and comes in all "I have some spare hardware"  meanwhile, I'm installing folding at home on my tv remotes and my wii U hoping for a little help lol... wondering if this gaming keyboard can help... it has RGB so that means it's fast right?

Don't let him fool you. He's sandbagging about 1 - 1.2 million extra PPD per update. By extra hardware, he means his 2nd 3090. 

 

What He and I are truly after is that sweet, sweet 5 million point update. #AmiRight?

Edited February 23, 2021 by Avacado

[Minotaurtoo]

18 minutes ago, Avacado said:

Don't let him fool you. He's sandbagging about 1 - 1.2 million extra PPD per update. By extra hardware, he means his 2nd 3090. 

I noticed some interesting divisions showing in the stats... the untouchables at the top... you and Bastiaan_NL... then a group of 3 titans followed by us normal mainstream folks with a slow smooth transition from high end to low end with me sitting right in the middle of mediocrity .  I know there are some who are "holding back"... and could likely catch up to the "untouchables" quickly if they wanted

 

Oh... for those who didn't know, and to embarrass him a little... Imports_R32 is my son ... he'd be right up there just behind me if he hadn't shown up late... he has the exact same GPU and only a slightly slower CPU

 

Edit:  Imports, post a pic of your rig 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Minotaurtoo

[Avacado]

11 minutes ago, Minotaurtoo said:

I noticed some interesting divisions showing in the stats... the untouchables at the top... you and Bastiaan_NL... then a group of 3 titans followed by us normal mainstream folks with a slow smooth transition from high end to low end with me sitting right in the middle of mediocrity .  I know there are some who are "holding back"... and could likely catch up to the "untouchables" quickly if they wanted

 

Oh... for those who didn't know, and to embarrass him a little... Imports_R32 is my son ... he'd be right up there just behind me if he hadn't shown up late... he has the exact same GPU and only a slightly slower CPU

 

Edit:  Imports, post a pic of your rig 

Thats right @Imports_R32 lets get your OC tuned so you can beat out your old man. 

[Imports_R32]

6 minutes ago, Avacado said:

Thats right @Imports_R32 lets get your OC tuned so you can beat out your old man. 

Well y’all asked for it, and please excuse the cable management, rather the lack thereof but @Minotaurtoo once I get it properly going I’m coming for you