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Give me a freaking break. Microsoft's going full ham on Russia, Russia, Russia again? How do we even know its Russia? Maybe its China, North Korea, Iran or Iraq, Turkey, Libya.......there's a LOT of countries that would absolutely love to cause chaos in the US. Maybe its our own government? Does Microsoft not know what a VPN is? What happened to common sense. Oh yeah, "It's on the internet so it MUST be true.....". /sarcasm - EDIT I'm sorry, I know there's...........you know, "the situation" right now with Russia. I just honestly don't believe even half of the propaganda about it. I think there's good people across the entire world, so I'm not going to sit here and judge an entire country's worth of people because Microsoft tells me to. Agreed with every other point made so far in the thread too.

Never tried VR myself, so take my opinion as just that, my opinion. From what I've personally seen though, seems VR is absolutely fantastic for things like simulator games. Racing, flying, farming, walking, whatever . For the more action themed games like Battlefield, Cowadooty, or in this instance, Haf Life Alyx, yeah the space and everything involved is just too much for a simple pick up and play kind of game as you'd be moving around a lot. Something where you're just using the VR as your eyes while sitting using either a wheel or HOTAS, a lot less space is actually required. Of course the gear still is though, but sim players tend to spend a LOT on their equipment anyway.

Oh absolutely. The only reason why I said Nvidia tax was because its $600, and there's many cheaper cards that outperform it. Not to mention the die being a traditionally lower tier die size, and any other reasons why this card really shouldn't be considered $600 worth. You're not wrong though. Personally, I'd still rather have native resolution. That might just be me though. I'm willing to accept things like FSR / DLSS though in exchange for MASSIVE purdies that make me drool at my screen. Otherwise, not really. Like Cyberpunk, I'm happy to use FSR in that in exchange for RT (right now, on a first gen RT card). As far as the AI aspect of it, also correct, very interesting times indeed. It could get very interesting for video games. Where I don't like seeing this technology at is with cameras and video recording devices (which are already doing it). If AI is generating frames or photos in cameras, what's going to stop the AI from producing fake "photographs". It already does this in certain phones. Might not be producing "fake" images just yet, but what's going to stop that from happening if the AI is generating the images in your camera? Gaming wise, I think this tool could be very useful though. I'd like to see buttery smooth framerates, high resolution (native if possible), and lots of pretties. This is what I pay big money for a GPU for. If AI is involved in that, so be it.

There are, but they're old enough they can't modern web browse either.......

Socket 939 won't, and neither will early AM2. But yet Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quads work fine. They lack CMPXCHG16b instruction set, which is a requirement for Windows 8.1 x64 and newer. I can run Windows 8.0 x64 on it or older, or I can run 32bit Windows 8.1 or 10 (11 maybe if I mess with the installer). But it'd have to be 32bit. We're talking early dual cores and quad cores with up to 16, to even 32GB of RAM and more on the dual and quad socket boards. Granted those systems won't play MODERN games, but there's still a ton of games even on Steam itself that have Windows XP or even 98 as the minimum requirement. Or even Windows 7, thousands probably for 7. By knocking out support completely, its almost forcing users into TPM and upgrading, just to play games that they paid for. That's my complaint. And yes, the Chrome underbelly of Steam is absolutely the problem here, agreed completely. My original point was, they COULD release a library ONLY version of the client to allow vintage systems to still access games that were once played on them (including Windows 7 systems now). No social part, no store, no community pages, just a download and play option (or even just a downloader with a steam login to access the games). They COULD. I'm not saying they will, clearly that's a pipe dream and will never happen. Here's an article from when 8.1 was released that goes over it. http://www.pcworld.com/article/2058683/new-windows-8-1-requirements-strand-some-users-on-windows-8.html

Nvidia tax.....

Nice! It was a struggle to get my 4000 rated 32GB kit to run at 3800 on my setup. 3600 honestly wasn't too bad, but I'd figure a boost in SoC voltage would probably resolve that if it was harder with 64GB.

What native resolution were you attempting? Now you've got me curious if my 6900XT can handle it with FSR. I was able to play with RT on prior using FSR. Hmmmm.....

Looks like @ENTERPRISEalready updated it? I recall Dark Mode being located elsewhere under settings....... https://extremehw.net/settings/theme-settings/

Tempting enough?

nvm

Audio only is fine, I was just thinking video might bring in more "hits" on the videos is all. I'm just sitting here, remembering a time on discord when we were dared to bust motherboards in half, and Bastiaan and I did so, very proudly..... Things like that, won't get caught if audio only. Audio only would be easier, yes. IDK, up to everyone involved of course. I certainly wouldn't REQUIRE any actual "guests" to be on video if they didn't want to. If somebody didn't want to be on video, we could substitute a filler photo in place, or they can have a camera on pointed at something that's interesting around them (like Jan does with his room sometimes). The organization, yeah I've noticed we tend to utilize google docs a lot. That's certainly an easy way we could organize these things. Just throwing ideas out there, seeing what all sticks. E's got me involved in this site now, and now I want to see it take off and be OCN v2.0.

I'd also be happy to participate (obviously). Can also submit my audio editing skills if needed (I don't know video editing but I can try). I don't think I'd be any good at making the intro and outro screens, photoshop / creativity kinda edits. But I could probably blend scenes together, cut out bad scenes if needed, things like that.

My core temp on my 6900XT hits 54*C. My HOTSPOT temp on my 6900XT is 110*C+. I was talking about your hotspot temp, I'm not sure if Nvidia has that sensor. Supposedly this happens on the MSI cards (specifically the 6900XT, but was wondering if Nvidia cards were effected too), and it happens due to the surface of the cold plate being uneven, warped, and grooved really badly. Might also be a pressure issue too, I haven't dissected my $1000 card to figure it out myself either.

You might have difficulties getting 64GB to work on a 5900x anyway, running at DDR4-3600 anyway. Personally, if its the same brand, same timings, same speeds, I say run it. More RAM > Faster RAM. If you need it, you know it. If you're in need of 64GB of RAM, its better to have it at a slower speed than not have it at all. And yes, the RAM will "work fine", just expect to do some tweaking on it, and don't go into it expecting 3600 speeds to work (but be happy and thankful if it does).

I'd say get a few (new episodes) under our belts first, but yeah that was kinda my idea. We could always record the show during the day, have time to edit, and then upload it later in the evening (or next day).

I wonder if your failure has anything to do with my 6900XT's failing too. Did the 4090 have that Tri fan, triple slot cooler on it like the MSI AMD cards have? I know they used to reuse their coolers a lot.....if you have the same cooler as my 6900XT, there's a known issue with the contact pad not being flat, resulting in excessively high hotspot temps. In pioneerisloud. It'll just be with my RX 580 this time, can't afford the power bill and none of my AMD cards put out anything worthwhile anyway.

Oh of course structure would be required and cleaned up language. We could of course use editing tools to correct any slip ups in language anyway, that's not that hard at all. I've done that in the past, and it'd be super easy to do it again, so I could easily go through and clean up audio before its uploaded. I just thought it'd be a fun, regular thing we could start doing since we do it anyway. And with the structure in place, and some good podcasts uploaded, I figured we could try reaching out to company vendors, maybe eventually youtubers or something? IDK, just tossing ideas out there. Glad I'm not the only one thinking that'd be a neat addition (again).

I think we've had this feature long ago in the earlier stages of EHW. My question is, could we potentially revisit this in 2023? We could start off by doing say short 15-30 minute video "hang out" podcasts where we just have membership on (that want to be a part), and we just chat tech, overclocking, tech news, whatever. We kind of already do this on the discord server kinda regularly. Thought it'd be neat to have an official, structured outlet that we could use to further the site's potential reach and maybe company involvement in the future. It'd be really cool to be able to have a Q/A session for example with someone at, I don't know, Cooler Master or EVGA or any of our sponsors we've had, to allow the enthusiast buyers of their products a direct line of communication. Not saying company reps would be a regular thing, but there's plenty of youtubers that do these kinds of things all on their own. Maybe I'm thinking about this too late in the video podcast game? Idk, just shooting ideas off as I'm sitting here watching tech youtubers and thinking....we could do this, and we could do it better. -_- Personally, I think if pulled off just right, it could potentially benefit not only EHW, but it could also potentially benefit any companies that came on with us too. Who knows how to improve tech products better than the tech communities, modders, and overclockers? Maybe we're also not quite there yet with EHW. Maybe we'll never go there? Idk.....again, was just a random idea.

Only thing I've ever paid attention to was Cinebench because that was my stress tester of choice. I scored about 13.2k at stock PBO with one run of Cinebench R23, and about 16.2k fully tuned with RAM, IF Clock, and PBO boosting (undervolt).

Like Pook said above, the thread is linked on the subscriptions page. You don't have to go searching, its right there if you want to know more about the different options. I do see what you're saying with the subscriptions page not having full information, but the flow does make sense as is. When I joined EHW, there was a 200MB file limit TOTAL for the whole site (actually might've been less even, I didn't pay attention). That grew to the current 350MB limit. Basically, all I'm saying is, when the site is going well, the membership will be treated well. I wouldn't be surprised if free memberships looked entirely different in the future on the site (for the better). Is there perhaps some sort of Chrome script or something one could run on their own end to force a site into a Dark mode? Idk, just an idea. Seems like a silly reason to not like a site. Idk about you, but I'm here for the content. Then again, I'm always the first one to put Windows into Dark mode too, so I know what you mean. Also, just keep in mind its a growing site. Things will continue getting better as the site goes on.

I think part of what you're seeing MIGHT be an instability. You might very well possibly be not 100% stable at -0.100v. On mine, I tried a variety of undervolts from -0.025v all the way down to -0.25v, and settled on -0.100v on mine because that's where performance and benchmarks peaked at consistently. If you're unstable, then stock PBO, stock voltages WILL perform better even if the clocks are lower. Getting good RAM and IF clocks is honestly a lot more important. Tweaking PBO and voltages like this is honestly about the last thing I'd worry about with a Ryzen system. I'd be more concentrating on getting DDR4-3600 to 3800 ish, depending on what your IF clock can pull off, honestly will lead to a much snappier system overall, and it helps in a lot of gaming titles too with 1% and 0.1% lows.

Nope, I didn't mess with anything else. PBO enabled, +200MHz, DOCP / XMP enabled, I adjusted RAM speeds (and timings later on), but otherwise that was it. Oh and the undervolt too. I think I also maxed out my board's power limits too for the CPU, I think I gave it a +140% power capability somewhere in the BIOS too. Changing it to PBO enabled, +200, and XMP enabled 1:1 with the IF Clock, that's really about it for tweaking Ryzen. The undervolt is going to allow it to boost higher because the boost algorithm works off temperatures. Keep the temps lower, it boosts higher, so undervolt it for lower temps. The tricky part comes in when you're not giving it enough voltage and it doesn't want to run stable anymore, that's the only thing that's similar to older overclocking techniques. Having the RAM and IF Clock 1:1 is the most important part, and then tweaking your RAM tuning is the next important bit. You can certainly push for a solid all core manual overclock. They DO perform better that way. At the end of the day though, daily using a rig, you don't really need the performance of an all core OC usually though, and disabling its downclocking abilities, I'd worry about long term usage. Absolutely great to figure out though if you're into benchmarking / hwbot competitions. With an ACTUAL manual all core overclock, I can get 4.70GHz. But as I said earlier, with PBO I sit at 4.75 all core. It's so close already using PBO, its almost not even worth it trying unless benching.

I'm still torn on which one would be best for me now between the 7800x3d or the 7900x. *Shrugs, my 5800x isn't exactly hurting me yet to the point I care enough. But still, they're getting more affordable........ -_-

Try 3840x1080. That'd be 32:9 instead of whatever that is you're trying 21:9? I know Beam supports 32:9 fine, I'd imagine it'd support that res fine too. But 3840x1080 would be the same aspect ratio I run.