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Nope, I didn't mess with anything else. PBO enabled, +200MHz, DOCP / XMP enabled, I adjusted RAM speeds (and timings later on), but otherwise that was it. Oh and the undervolt too. I think I also maxed out my board's power limits too for the CPU, I think I gave it a +140% power capability somewhere in the BIOS too. Changing it to PBO enabled, +200, and XMP enabled 1:1 with the IF Clock, that's really about it for tweaking Ryzen. The undervolt is going to allow it to boost higher because the boost algorithm works off temperatures. Keep the temps lower, it boosts higher, so undervolt it for lower temps. The tricky part comes in when you're not giving it enough voltage and it doesn't want to run stable anymore, that's the only thing that's similar to older overclocking techniques. Having the RAM and IF Clock 1:1 is the most important part, and then tweaking your RAM tuning is the next important bit. You can certainly push for a solid all core manual overclock. They DO perform better that way. At the end of the day though, daily using a rig, you don't really need the performance of an all core OC usually though, and disabling its downclocking abilities, I'd worry about long term usage. Absolutely great to figure out though if you're into benchmarking / hwbot competitions. With an ACTUAL manual all core overclock, I can get 4.70GHz. But as I said earlier, with PBO I sit at 4.75 all core. It's so close already using PBO, its almost not even worth it trying unless benching.

I'm still torn on which one would be best for me now between the 7800x3d or the 7900x. *Shrugs, my 5800x isn't exactly hurting me yet to the point I care enough. But still, they're getting more affordable........ -_-

Try 3840x1080. That'd be 32:9 instead of whatever that is you're trying 21:9? I know Beam supports 32:9 fine, I'd imagine it'd support that res fine too. But 3840x1080 would be the same aspect ratio I run.

I set PBO to enabled, +200, turn on DOCP, and a -0.100v offset on my 5800x. Boosts to 5.1GHz single core or 4.75 all core, and runs cool and quiet. I'd just enable PBO with a negative offset and go from there. You can get a pretty good idea if its stable by running Cinebench R23. If your score goes up, the negative voltage is fine. If your score goes DOWN, use less of an undervolt.

Those videos were fun at 1440p + good 2.1 too. Yeah, definitely agree. Monitor is probably one of the most important upgrades somebody can make on a rig. It is what you look at 99.99% of the time when interacting with your machine after all. Sound upgrades should be a close 2nd in priority. Keyboard and mouse 3rd IMO. All 3 of those "upgrades" can last years or even decades if you find a really nice setup that you want to stick with. Then rig, since new parts are constantly coming out. Personally a giant 48" 16:9 just isn't it for me, I like having that extra width that only Surround / Eyefinity or Ultrawide can give. Maybe one day for a dedicated non racing setup or something, then maybe I might step back into a bigger 16:9 setup. I kinda want to try those videos out on my 4k TV though, and since I lack proper sound everywhere else in the house, maybe use my headphones to enjoy the spatial sound.

You can get really close with cable management anyway in that case, same as my Chieftec Dragons from the looks of it....or very similar. Lots and lots of zip ties. Might be useful to get those little 1" sticky squares with a loop in em to attach zip tie mounting points to the mobo tray or something too. At least that way you'd have a tie down point along the mobo tray you could use too. Either way, build's coming along nicely! Looking forward to finalized 110% done pics.

In "pioneerisloud" Want that cat hammock, think it'll hold a child? Somebody needs to get ahold of our 3dfx rep. Maybe we can get the new RTX 4090 killer, the Voodoo 3dx23? That'd be an awesome prize! https://www.dsogaming.com/news/3dfx-re-enters-the-gpu-market-shows-off-an-rtx4090-killer-with-30gb-of-vram-at-1000/

I haven't used any of the routers mentioned, however I've no complaints on all of my TP-Link equipment.

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@ENTERPRISE want to check into that?

Time to ask for some review samples! Those look very interesting......I've seen house fans that are kinda similar. Kinda neat. EDIT: Of COURSE it has to be an April Fools joke.... -_-

Not true at all. I cannot upgrade some of my systems that are on 7, missing instruction sets for Win8 and newer. The systems still work fine, play games fine, browse the internet fine. Yes, I'm aware this is a Chromium based limitation that is causing Steam to be shutdown on older systems. My argument is there's old versions of Chromium out there, its not like they can't create a "library only" version of Steam for old systems that has an old version of Chromium on it, no online features, and JUST the library of games that you've bought and paid for. Remember, there's still thousands of games on Steam right now, that state "minimum requirement: Windows XP", but yet you can't install Steam on XP. Some of these games don't work on newer systems either, so you're paying for a broken title. This is a problem. Obviously this is wishful thinking on my part and it'll never happen. Just stating why this is a problem. Also, there ARE modded versions of Steam available that one CAN run on systems as old as XP, even today. They're not 100% though, due to the way Steam launches and updates itself so its hit or miss. Supposedly one can potentially be banned for it too, as it requires modding Steam core files IIRC. This too, wouldn't even be a thing if Valve would just release one for everyone.

I'm aware of that. When I suggested the adapters yesterday, he was showing PCIe 2.0 NVME drives (non M.2). So I naturally assumed his board did NOT have an M.2 slot.

Ahhh, now I understand the conundrum here. Yeah, what you've discovered is correct. PCIe 2.0 drives have gotten to be stupid expensive, even used. There's absolutely no reason for it when (my above mentioned) adapters are like $12 and 1TB Gen 3 drives are like 50 bucks. If you have an M.2 slot already, you already know the answer. But yeah, it definitely sucks that PCIe 2.0 drives are so expensive. They really shouldn't be. It's the "retro tax", at its finest. -_-

Just buy an adapter, PCIe to M.2 is like $12.......

Steam REALLY needs to release a "retro" release of Steam, something with JUST the library access. Like now. This is going to knock out a ton of perfectly working machines from their respective libraries. It was wrong when they cut off XP, and its wrong that they're doing this now. -_-

Neat!

I didn't know there was custom modded campaigns for L4D2......that game's still quite a bit of fun! Honestly, most of Valve's titles are still fun today. I'd totally play some custom map L4D2 if anyone else still plays, never done that before. I've done custom mapped HL / HL2, and coop campaigns on both (thanks to Sven coop). And yeah, I agree with everyone else. We all know Valve can't count to 3. Such a shame too because Valve does make my absolute favorite titles. Too bad there's a handful of titles and that's it. -_-

So after some tweaking, I think, THINK its stable. It's passed over 12 hours P95 blended (with AVX). Didn't freeze. 4.1GHz all core, and tightened timings a lot tighter than stock. Downclocked RAM to 3166 instead of 3200 since 3200 results in freezing. Going to let it sit and fold for a few days as is, see how it does. If it does fine, I'll remove the CPU worker on F@H, and let it run a few more days. If it passes that....then I'll OC the GPU some. I think its stable so far though FINALLY!

Those are some really nice DIY feet! Definitely see where the inspiration came from. Love seeing DIY case mods, thank you for sharing!

Such a cool case, and an even cooler build! $355 is a steal for a 4u rack case that holds water cooling. The one I have was a "cheapie" at $480 that's a specialty 4u case too; it holds 20x 3.5" drives. Yours.....holds a rad+. Seems like fair pricing to me. Build looks amazing. The review was easy to read, lots of great pictures.

Welcome! @damric is a cool guy. I'm sure he'll pop in and say hi too. Congrats on your subs with your 5600! It's amazing what you can do with a little trial and error, and maybe some patience huh? Looking forward to benching along side you during the next team event on hwbot. I'm more like the resident benchwarmer, sitting on the sidelines cheering on our team, until somebody breaks a leg and coach throws me in.....or if the whole team is playing.

"Right time in history", well you've got that right. People don't do those things anymore very often it seems. That's why I love seeing other people doing it. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside lol. I'll bet you'll never let that case go either. I always forget Thermaltake made them too! I had the Apevia X-Pider (same) back in the day that I modded a window into (the windowed version was OOS when I bought mine). I have two Antec versions of it today, one with the door and one without (black / beige respectively). I'm not sure if I'd be full of regret owning a PC-777A or PC-888 today or not....seriously what was Lian Li thinking back then??? They're absolutely some of the ugliest cases I've ever seen, but that's kinda what makes them so neat. There's been others in modern times that have been just as ugly / unique. But those Lian Li ones, you can just TELL they're mid 2000's era by looking at them. Solid aluminum, like all their cases. Idk, I'll bet either of those two cases would fetch a pretty penny to the right collector today. I wouldn't buy one today (or back then), but if I ran across one at a thrift store, or in the local PC shop's storage unit or something.......I'd inquire about it. What's really interesting about those Lian Li's though, that's the same era the PC-60 and other popular cases were from. So you know they knew how to make a non ugly case. I don't get why their "special editions" had to be so freaking ugly. Maybe it was for the sole purpose of having people like us talk about it 20 years later?

I'm with T.Sharp on this one. I too would prefer an all in one unit over a stack. I'll be honest, some of these other guys are probably better at recommended mini's than I, but I absolutely love my SMSL AD18. But you don't really need a speaker amp though, just headphones amp (the AD18 has 2 amps in it, speakers and cans). I can understand stacking old school components, that's just how it was. But going for a mini? Nahhh, go tiny or go home. Just going off brand names alone (usually not a good thing in audio lol), but Topping, Schiit, SMSL, Dayton......I mean you really can't go wrong with anything listed in this thread so far lol.

I completely understand what you mean. I may be building "retro" rigs, but I'd be lying if I said I liked all my rigs equally, I don't. My beige Chieftec Dragon or my custom modded Rosewill case would absolutely be my two favorite cases / builds. Why? Because I spent the time, effort, and resources to fix or mod those cases. You're right, its a LOT of work to do a good enough job, especially if you've never done these things before. Bondo, cutting, finding the right type of metal, sanding, painting, dremel...... It's tiring. It's a lot of work. But that's EXACTLY why I love those 2 builds the most out of mine. And that's also EXACTLY the reason why I like yours so much. Honestly, the original version of your case really isn't anything special (not trying to be rude, hear me out lol). It is only because its still alive today, that's about it. But after all that work you've put into that case, it shows. It really does. That Lian Li case is absolutely horrific looking. Reminds me of those other "weird" cases that have popped up in recent years. The sideways cubes, the pyramid case, I think it was InWin that kept making the really funky cases in modern years? I kinda want one that you pictured, but only because its so horrifically ugly. I legitimately don't think I'd even like that case, but its so freaking ugly! What is it so I can keep my eyes peeled for one?