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/img/logo.png pioneerisloud`s GPUPI for CPU - 100M score: 2min 11sec 696ms with a Phenom X4 9850 BE HWBOT.ORG The Phenom X4 9850 BE @ 3150.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the GPUPI for CPU - 100M benchmark. pioneerisloudranks #1117... We still need 1 more run with an Agena quad core, not a 9950BE or 9850 (non BE). My 9850 (although wrongly listed) bumped us from 9th to 6th in that category!

Your welcome!

Wouldn't be proprietary if it became an adopted standard though.

Is that a dedicated 12pin SLOT for power? As in it'll slot in just like the PCIe slot? If THAT became standard instead of the stupid plug and cable you can't bend to fit your GPU in with the side panel on, I'm all for it! To be honest, I kinda prefer mid-range cards for their aesthetics for the very reason they don't have a bunch of 6 or 8pin cables connected to it.

Ahh, well there we go then. It is a fantastically neat card.

Not trying to be rude, or even a moderator..., but best to take that conversation to PM at this point. As far as your debate, you already know the answer I'm sure. RTX 3070 > GTX 1080Ti > Vega. The cards will be priced accordingly I'm sure too. Knowing damric though, I'm sure he'll hook you up with a fair price on that MI25. On the other hand, you COULD say screw it, why not both? For the price of the RTX 3070 you could have a 1080Ti and the MI25 I'll bet. Both cards would be pretty comparable; personally I think it's kinda neat having a card from both camps that are similar.

Right? No I agree, the "XTX" this round doesn't make sense. Especially since that didn't leave AMD any room at all for releasing a "Ti" variant later like they did last gen with the 6950XT, unless they're planning on doing a 7950XTX or something. Oddly enough, as far as AMD goes, this reminds me a LOT of ATI's X1k series cards from a decade+ ago, the last DX9 cards. X1800XT was originally the top dog card, then Nvidia came out with the GF 7900, then ATI released the X1900XT. Then Nvidia responded, then ATI came out with the X1950XT, then the X1950XTX. Meanwhile THAT generation, the x1800 was originally the "top dog" card. Yeah no, this isn't new. -_- Absolutely annoying when you're trying to match the same tier card each gen. Not new though. -_-

While yes, you are correct, you're also forgetting there's an extra card this go around. Last gen it was the 6900XT as top dog, then 6800XT (the 6950XT was a refresh released way later). This gen its 7900XTX, then 7900XT, THEN the 7800XT. So in all fairness you could about equate it to the 6700XT of last gen instead. I do agree with your point though, its the x8xx part number, they should keep those x8 series chips as is. AMD has been doing this for quite some time as well I'm afraid. It's typical marketing to sell more cards, that's all it is. AMD started doing this type of naming scheme changes as soon as they took over in the ealier HD series days. Not defending the practice at all, just saying its been relatively normal for AMD to do this. With Nvidia's mistake on their lower tiered RTX 4000 series, that was a different type of fiasco. I'd almost say similar to the 660Ti from years ago. Obviously cut down dies of an x50 or x60 sized card, trying to pass off as a high end 4080 which actually was following their last gen naming scheme, or the 4070Ti and lower 4060Ti. AMD is not 100% following last gen's naming scheme though, Nvidia is. Either way, both companies suck for misleading consumers in such manners. -_-

You're learning and retaining GPU history...... perfect...... I honestly did not know that. Okay, cool, so I have Tri-X's. I love learning about GPU history, always learning new things.

Just gotta keep you on your toes bro. Seriously though, those were some gorgeous cards. I have one of those 290x Tri-X's myself, great cards. I can never remember if that model was a Tri-X or Vapor-X, whatever, you know what I mean lol.

Oof, is that Cooler Master v1000 the reason why those cards are no longer with you? R.I.P.

Honestly, having ran a 6900xt, 5700xt, and a Vega64, all with modern enough Ryzen CPU's, I'd say the biggest difference between the 2 cards is going to be resolution. A Vega is capable of running "most" games at preset Ultra settings at 1080p. 5700xt can do the same at 1440p. And the 6900xt at 4k. With that being said, those tests were ran when I got my 6900xt when it was new. So basically, what your current Vega is doing at 1080p, a 5700xt will do VERY similarly......at 1440p.

Wanna bet? I say we let the cards do the talking.....

I have not. I'll be busting out Socket 939 here soon-ish for the hwbot Team Cup (you should join us again this year, only 2 weeks left). I can try one of them in Socket 939 or even AM2 here when I have those rigs out for benching.

I have a Vega, 5700XT, and even a 6900XT. Been a while since I've checked on server boards, but looks like C32 is roughly equivilant to Bulldozer and Piledriver ish. I've got a 290x paired with my FX chip. RX 580 is also a good pairing. Vega will be SLIGHTLY bottlenecked by it, but it'll run fine. R9 Fury would also be a good fit, although Vega would work better. 5700XT if you absolutely want something supported by current drivers. You could also step into like a 6600XT, or even a 6700XT if you're at 4k resolution I'd wager too.

I'm not sure if it'll help in your fella's quest here, but I have on hand a Vega64 I could measure. I do believe @LabRat has the same card too though.

Question, Wouldn't this new "section" conflict a little bit with the "site suggestions" section? I mean if you can't find something on the site / how to use something, the site itself should be relatively common sense proof. So if something is missing or a person can't find it, they could always suggest whatever feature is missing. If the site has it already, @ENTERPRISEusually pops in and gives the proper directions on how to access said feature, and if its not available he usually offers to put it in for us. I kinda agree with E on this one, that it would absolutely have the potential to be "abused" for just general tech help instead of the "site help" like you're suggesting. Thing is WE here at EHW are, for the most part, a group of pretty smart individuals. We need to remember though however, that PEOPLE in general are dumb, mindless creatures in mass. Not everyone would take the time to read E's instructions. "Oh, this section says help, I need help with my new Asus x99999 motherboard so I'll post here" is EXACTLY the kind of mentality I would expect with a "site help" section. IDK, just my 2 cents.

$5.99 at the thrift store.

Okay, you actually made me go hunting and research a Socket I already thought I knew everything about. See....we DO learn new things everyday!!!! So.....I was GOING to say, that magazine must be impossible. FX-51 is a Socket 940 based processor, and Socket 940 only had PCIe capable motherboards and DDR ECC memory options only. HOWEVER, turns out I'd be wrong in that assessment. I had NO CLUE they made AGP Socket 940 motherboards!!!! Apparently, they were only produced in the early days of Socket 940, once Nvidia got their act together with their NForce chipsets, 940 went full PCIe only at THAT point (around Socket 939 release). Socket 754 was the only Socket at the time that had AGP from AMD, or you'd have to go backwards to Socket A and K7 with the Athlon-XP processors to get AGP back. Again, I see NOW that I was wrong in that remembrance. Here's proof: ASUS SK8N NVIDIA nForce3 Pro 150 Mainboard IXBTLABS.COM The only reason I even went into all that, is because the Radeon 9800XT was ONLY released as an AGP card. But hey, thanks for teaching me something new today!

You're going to fit in PERFECTLY around here....... Welcome (again I guess?) to EHW!

The Ti 4200's aren't too terribly bad if you can find one from a reasonable seller. I almost bought one for $35 a few days ago. Seller didn't want to combine shipping though (was from Ukraine to US), was trying to grab multiple old cards from him. $160 shipped for 3 vintage cards? Yeah no thank you. The Ti 4400 and 4600's are stupid expensive though. Been trying to score one. -_-

That was a wonderful read boss man. Sounds like Gigabyte has their act together on this SSD, looks like this SSD might be worth every penny of the Gen5 pricing. The included heatsink also appears like it might put high end tower coolers to shame too..... Spot on review! Was well worth the read!

Send it to pio to collect? Hey, can't say I didn't try......