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From what I've been seeing, you "should" be capable of running it at 4k with DLSS on "Performance" mode. You'd probably be a lot happier at 1440p "Performance" DLSS though. Either way, yeah seems like if you don't have a 4080 or better you're not going to see the benefits as well from this title, which is a huge shame. Yeah, its a great way to "showoff" the new technology in the 4000 series, but even people that run them admit the AI frame insertion and DLSS isn't nearly as good as playing native.

Not hard to pull up Wikipedia to see where EVGA is headquartered at and create the listing as being from 92821 in Brea, California. I just created a dummy listing (didn't fully create it), and ebay let me create mine as being from Brea, CA despite me being thousands of miles away from there.

eVGA's already been emailed. If its legit, then its legit. If not, I'm sure they'll release an announcement or something, who knows.

Dude, that whole listing just SCREAMS fishy...... Seller just joined ebay Dec 7, 2022. Seller claims no returns or refunds on both their active listings (even though eVGA is still in business for now) That listing has jumped literally $12,000 in just hours...... eVGA has their very own web shop on ebay, and that's not them I dunno man.....it just screams scam to me. Maybe I'm wrong. The hilarity of my original comment aside, there's a sucker born every minute.....this really REALLY seems scammy to me. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe somebody will get their $10,000 GPU, excuse me $11,000, excuse me, $12,000......is it done climbing yet? This thing's going to be $100k before the first day is over....... Inb4 TPU publishes an article about EVGA scammers on ebay......

I can't find it on ebay myself. Link? Are people SERIOUSLY bidding $10,000 for a card that's not even worth $1600 because its EVGA? -_- I mean I guess because its "REALLY LIMITED" edition its worth more, but $10,000???? EDIT: Nevermind, link is in OP but you've got the image in the link too so it was hard to find.

With my RX 6900XT, I was getting around 25-30 FPS at 1280x720, ish, give or take. It was ALMOST playable at 16:9 720p. I played the first few levels though at 1920x540 due to having an ultrawide. RSR was active, and honestly it didn't help anywhere near enough at "540p" ultrawide. It just looked horrible. The lighting effects were nice, but the rest looked really bad. Performance was ALMOST okay, almost. I got 23-30 FPS at 1920x540. EDIT: I figured out the ALT + X menu thing. Got things "tuned". 1280x720 with "performance" mode on, "enhanced graphics" on but the preset on "high" instead of "ultra" at 50% res scaling (so basically 360p), and I played through the whole game. It looked horrid, didn't use my whole monitor, but at least I could kinda almost tell what they were going for. Was getting 30-36 FPS with those settings. I did notice at 1920x540, if I could turn OFF the resolution scaling in the game itself, RSR actually made it look not too terribly bad (same with 1280x720). But the performance was just not there with the in game scaling turned off. Like 8-12 FPS. Sigh. -_-

I'll give it a try, why not? -_- I was REALLY hoping Valve would make it more open so it worked on a wider variety of hardware better.

I lick windows....... But yeah seriously, other than being a little "edgy" with a $1000 case comment, so what? Who cares? Thermalfake? I have a Thermaltake case, and I am absolutely offended. Wait, is offended the right word for laughing my butt off at calling them "Thermalfake"? Seriously, @Outsider, bro, this isn't reddit. And from what I've gathered around here, that's part of the reason E made this site, was so us enthusiasts could openly speak our mind after OCN went the way it did. Other than saying you're going to be banned for being offensive, I haven't seen anything actually offensive said yet. Quit talking about being banned, and have some fun man.

Because I've personally degraded those chips, but I have yet to degrade an AMD chip. I've killed RAM sticks on an AMD setup, but not the IMC yet anyway *knocks on wood

Still? No lol. I scored the SOHO BNIB "new old stock" on ebay a while back, and the PC-60 was a rescue from a computer repair shop locally. When the weather gets better, I get the lovely joy of sanding the PC-60, and re-graining it because its got some massively deep and bad scratches on it. Wanna sell some of those beauties? LOL No, don't answer that, I have enough. -_- Back on topic: There's some modern cases that are pretty good. I can honestly say the HAF 700 was a joy to build in.

You're talking about digital efficiency as far as frames on the screen go. We're talking about real world efficiency, as in the heat being dumped into your room. 2 different things here mate. "Energy in motion is ALWAYS in motion". Comparing a turbo's efficiency isn't the same thing as discussing a GPU's heat output. A turbo takes waste heat energy from a car's combustion engine, and brings it back into the engine to produce more power, or more "movement" if you will. A GPU's ONLY purpose physically is to literally dump heat in the terms of wattage. That's the only physical thing it does. That energy HAS to be going somewhere, period, per the laws of physics. Talking about turbos vs GPU's would be like if we could take the waste heat off a GPU and re-circulating it with a "turbo" to produce even more frames per second. That doesn't exist because frames aren't a physical thing. Heat is the byproduct of energy being used. You're using 400w worth of energy, so 400w worth of heat is being dumped. A car....a car is using so many watts of power (kilowatts+), but its actually producing movement. Energy in motion is always in motion. Until your GPU starts zooming around the room from the power its using, the only PHYSICAL measure you can have from it is heat dumped into the room. That's the only "movement" it can have with the power it consumes.

I actually have both of those.

I understand that...... My 6900XT runs cooler than my 5700XT does, but it still dumps more heat into the room than the 5700XT does though. You're not wrong that less warm metal certainly would mean less heat coming out. We're arguing semantics at this point. *shrugs My point is, if you're drawing 400w with the GPU, that's 400w worth of heat dump. Regardless of the temperatures the card itself is running at. Just like my card being 310-320w vs my 5700XT's 200-250w. More power draw = more heat dump. That's why Sir B was asking about undervolting, to reduce the power draw some, thus reducing the heat dump.

Well the thing is, if your GPU is pulling 400w, that's 400w worth of heat dump. Efficiency just means it produces more frames for that 400w, or it could mean that the cooler is doing a better job producing less heat on the silicone itself (GPU temps). 400w is still 400w worth of heat being dumped into the room your computer is in. It's no different than say a 45w vs a 100w light bulb. Or a 1500w space heater being ran at 750w setting. Since PC parts have no way to output that electricity power being drawn other than frames on a screen, its dumped as heat into the room. Audio parts are a little bit different as they typically put the power out as sound, since sound is energy. There's no energy being produced by what your computer is drawing from the wall, so that energy has to go somewhere......heat in the room.

Sir B was talking about heat OUTPUT from the card though mate. Your figures there show nearly 400w heat output, not the actual temperatures of the card itself. That's why he was talking about undervolting. My 6900XT for example is nowhere near 400w, I think it peaks around 310w or so at my current settings, and I can absolutely feel the heat coming off of it in my tiny apartment.

Yup. It's like, okay you drive a Honda Civic. Who cares? Oh, you drive a Ferrari? Okay, again, who cares? Cases are the ONE point in a build where you HAVE to look at it everyday. YOU have to live with your case, not me. Doesn't mean I can't criticize the Honda Civic for not being fast or being too ricey or whatever. But that's part of the criticism you open yourself up to when you post what you've got. If I had a Honda Civic, I'd fully expect people to rip into me for it. People rip into my FWD one wheel peel Jeep. I don't care.....its mine and I love it, and that's what matters. Same rule applies for cases. Now where's Michael at with the popcorn?

Yup. I'm curious to know what he had to say about modern cases to be honest. If other people don't like it, screw em. Isn't that the point of the thread titled, "Modern computer cases are going to hell"?

Same but for T-shirt or hoodie. Realistically, I'd be down for a T shirt or hoodie. If its some cheap clothing that'll rip or tear easily just tossing in the washer and dryer.....meh. I tend to try to keep clothing for years and years. I hate it when it rips, shrinks, or fades easily after a few runs in the washer and dryer. -_-

<<<<< This guy wouldn't say no to a EHW Ducky with MX Blues.........

I can't speak about MODERN Intel, but my experience with Sandy, Ivy, and Haswell tells me that its easier than we're led to believe to degrade a chip. HOWEVER......my chips have always tended to degrade on the IMC moreso than a core overclock. My 2600k will still work at 4.5GHz, 1.50v (it was a REALLY bad chip) for example, but it refuses to run DDR3-1866 anymore. Heat is the killer of our parts, not voltage. Yes, voltage CAN kill, but the majority of overclockers will never put a killer amount of voltage through their kit anyway. If he's keeping it cool enough, he didn't hurt anything. Especially for just 2 test overclocks, no the chip is fine and like new. But if he's soooo sure, I'll buy his "dead" CPU for half off......

Could check out the SUB $50 price range on cases too. If you're mindful that they're cheap cases (mostly with screws being somewhat easy to strip if you're too aggressive), these cases are absolutely fantastic bang for your buck. DIYPC Computer Cases | Newegg.com WWW.NEWEGG.COM Shop DIYPC Computer Cases on Newegg.com. Watch for amazing deals and get great pricing. Of course, most of the people on here probably aren't all that interested in such cases. But hey, if you need a case, can't beat a cheapie with free shipping. I think I've got 4 or 5 of these cases (various models) in various builds around the house.

That has got to be the CUTEST graphics card I've ever seen! o.0 Kind of almost want just because its so dang cute.........but not really.......

Thing is, cases don't REALLY go "out of style". At least not in my opinion. ATX standard cases are still ATX standard afterall. We literally have over 20 years of cases to choose from if you're looking for something that's of a different style. Don't like the offerings brand new? Go look for a used case. Find one that's damaged? Fix it up, paint's cheap.

Not only that man, but 3x Opteron 180's for $150? That's $50 each just for the CPU's. That ALONE is a steal. Now I need to figure out what a Socket 939 blade can do. I have space on my rack, I could put those in my rack. I'm just not sure what they're capable of doing.

Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! I really need to stay off ebay!!!! He threw in a third Opteron 180, more RAM, and another cooler. I couldn't say no..... -_- https://www.ebay.com/itm/144553739279