pio

I absolutely DO know who you're talking about, and no he's not here as Andrew and E said earlier. I was a senior mod over at the place that shall not be named for years, and yeah I agree with you on that complaint. It wasn't just him (although he was the worst for it), it was also a HUGE lack of communication with the mods starting with the switch to Huddler. When nobody is talking to each other, you end up getting those hard handed mods sneaking in. I always operated on the whole, "treat others how you want to be treated" principle. *shrugs Welcome to all the new (to EHW) guys! As you can probably tell, yeah its a TAD slower around here, and a lot less questions, but we're ALL here for anyone that needs help.

This. Quite a few new faces on the forum today (at least for me, I retired at OCN years and years ago). There's also been a few even my old butt can recognize. It's awesome to see more people coming in, but like Avacado said so eloquently above.....we're a "family" here. If that's cool, then welcome! Bigger families are usually better anyway. That personal touch, the modding, the "Extreme" stuff, just a general "pot" of knowledge here. If you ask me, that beats what OCN has become lately; PBO auto tune and call it a day, hurr durr my brand is betterer than urs, etc. "The pursuit of performance" motto went out the window with the users at OCN years ago, and instead it became the pursuit of X brand / hit the OC button. Nah, that's not enthusiast. /rant I could totally start using Aunty Avacado....... I like it!

Welcome to the retirement party E! Having been a member of OCN since what was it, 2006 or 2007 or so, yeah it absolutely WAS a fantastic place waaay back when. I'm sad to see OCN go, however I feel blessed to have found EHW (thank you @BWG). I've gotten back into contact with a lot of you guys again. Doing the hwbot competitions I'm starting to see more familiar names from people I remember on other forums now. Some of those names are here AND on other forums even. It's wonderful seeing the OG's back at it again. 2023 and beyond is going to be OUR years guys. We're going to overtake OCN because we have THE talent here. We made OCN, now we can take it out! I mean seriously, where would OCN be at today if it weren't for all of us that made it what it is nearly 2 decades ago? Even 1 decade ago? Also what you stated about friendships E, that really speaks to me as well. This site has so much incredible talent, its insane. And on top of that talent, most of us are humble enough to admit mistakes and we're all willing to pitch in and help each other when we need it. I mean seriously, you just flat out don't get that kind of people on other areas of the internet. You just don't. @ Each and every one of us: We need to all just keep being freaking awesome. Keep helping each other, lifting each other up, do what we can for each other. Because if we don't show these other idiot sites how to run a tech community, all we're going to have left is going to be reddit. Do you want to be on reddit? No? Me neither. Innovation, modding, overclocking, just tinkering with junk.......that's what drives the tech community (in my opinion). And we have that by the truck load here.

When you do, you should write us up an "Amateur Review" of it in the correct section! https://forums.extremehw.net/forum/128-amateur-reviews/

Socket 754 rig is complete, and working 110% now. Was just playing Portal on it at 1080p, that X1950 PRO does an amazing job! I need moar zip ties before I take pictures. It's a mess of cables right now. One thing I didn't buy was more zip ties. -_- I'll get some next week, and I should have even more updates by then anyway. The early Socket A - 1100MHz T-Bird with a Radeon 9800XT is also now 100% done. I haven't fired it up yet, but the card should be fine (it was fine before). It's up next on the bench. Also desperately need zip ties (again) for that one to get them molexes pulled up higher. After these tonight, I have the later PS2 / ATX era K6 to build, everything's here and tested good. And hopefully by the time that one's done, I'll have figured out an acceptable PSU solution for the Athlon-XP build. These should all be 100% and ready to photograph and play with by end of February it looks like. Still short one 939 rig and the early k6 for Windows 95 due to cases still. But the rest should be about wrapping up now.

Sigh. Idk if everybody remembers, but Pepperidge Farms remembers when we complained about Actiblizzard when it was first announced they were merging. Then they get another company under them, making them ABK. Now the big wigs are drunk with power and taking it over from the inside out. Who saw that coming? I think Pepperidge Farms saw it coming. It's true what they say. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Maybe, we can hope, EA might take a look at ABK and learn a thing or two before its too late for them. They've been on a downwards spiral in their actions against gamers for a long time as well. Won't go into details or gripes since EA's not what this thread's about lol.

They've been around just as long as Intel has been. I'm not going to sugar coat it, if there's a problem with these cards then they should just come forward and be truthful about it. I've defended the "hurr durr AMD driver problems durrrrr" threads in the past, but OBVIOUSLY there's problems in their driver department for sure as of lately. And you're right, the PR hits they're taking as of lately definitely aren't helping things any at all. They've killed performance purposely on old cards and completely dumped support for cards they really shouldn't have (Nvidia's done similar mind you). These black screen / freezing problems prevalent on 3 generations (at least) of cards due to their drivers, that's another problem. And then the rumors of dies cracking at random, POTENTIALLY due to drivers (but maybe not really?). I wanted a 7900XTX, but I'm glad I waited now. Kind of wanting to grab a 6950XT though in case my 6900 decides to join the others. -_-

As I mentioned too in my comment, I had those same EXACT problems of blackscreens and random freezing on older drivers. It was especially prevalent when watching youtube videos, just on desktop use. For me, PERSONALLY, I did not have those same issues on 22.11.2's, but I went back to 22.11.1's as a precaution.

RIP. It's kind of funny to me (not in a haha kind of way though). I recognized their voices immediately but had no clue why in the first few songs there. Turn Turn Turn, and Stop Children I both know very well though. But yet I had no idea who it was, I just remembered hearing them on the radio or in movies a lot. Nice to actually hear those songs again, and know who made them.

This WAS covered elsewhere on the site, but I'm pretty sure it was a regular thread and not a news thread. @bonami2 I think it was your thread? Either way, I don't mind its posted twice, but you had kinda asked...... Anyway, I too WAS running the 22.11.2's I think they were, the "cursed" drivers mentioned in the videos. I had absolutely ZERO problems on them myself with a bone stock 6900XT. With that said, I only was on them for a few days and hadn't even really fired up a game as I had just formatted and re-installed. I read about the problems in bonami's thread, and well....I'm now back on 22.11.1's. I believe J7SC said it earlier, but better safe than sorry. For some odd reason, I actually WAS experiencing driver related problems on the older 22.5.6's I think they were? The last WHQL's before these last 2 sets. The problems I was having, also happen to be noted fixes in the newer 22.11.1's I'm running now. Black screen problems, freezing, and those are notably "fixed" now. I also DID in fact eventually start noticing those same issues on my 5700XT and my Vega64 systems on occasion (but not 110% sure it was drivers on that, so whatever). I was NOT having those problems earlier this year though in like January - April ish drivers. So, its kind of interesting that AMD broke the drivers sometime earlier this year, and it took them 6 months to issue a fix. At least, for my particular bugs I was legitimately experiencing. I think I had the black screen bug once when I was streaming "Lawn Mowing Simulator" in the site discord channel lol.

I thought it was just me......

I was actually just sitting here pondering that very same scenario......

Speaking of merch..........Avacado should definitely get this made up and wear it on his little outing. Me flexing my mad photoshop skills.....

I absolutely love both of your ideas there TBH. I'd love to see some EHW AIO's, keyboards, mice maybe......we could do all of that pretty easily I'd imagine. The question is, would it sell / make money, be worth the investment for E? Depending on mounting capabilities of the AIO, and keyboard and mouse options (if that was ever brought to), I'd possibly want all 3 at least one of each. I do have a question though, not at you directly, but about that process in general with the merch. Would going through a merch handler like that, for our small of a community be a little bit, I dunno too much? For streamlining a full time merch gig, I could totally understand something like that. But for the 5 or 6 people here that'd want some neat EHW stuff? Let's just be safe and bump that up to idk, an order of 50 (of whatever). That even seems overkill. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to have the merch made as a one time run? You'd have a wider variety of manufacturers to choose from and could order the exact number that is needed, no more. Or maybe a few extra to give away as freebies in competitions or something, but still. If the site ever got anywhere near even old OCN member levels, I could totally see a merch handler business like that being a useful tool to keep in mind for future merch runs though.

Granted, you now have the super power of being too slow for everything. I wish I had water cooling equipment.

Okay, I think I see a potential plus with that setup. The mics could plug directly into the wireless DAC (which then goes to speakers) and bypass the tablet entirely for mics. THAT wouldn't be too bad of an idea actually. Then tablet can just send audio over BT (for videos), and video content over wifi to a Chromecast, Firestick or Roku, into the splitter, out to the 4 TV's. Yay! That'll work!

We're basically trying to use his Samsung View tablet to be a mixer, speaker output, microphone input, AND display videos on 4 TV's (which we already have a splitter for HDMI). But.....all wirelessly so the tablet can be carried around.

Man I miss mine, broke the USB plug on the keyboard itself and at the time had no clue how to repair it. -_-

I mean my "hotspot" has always hit 110*C on this card since I got it. RMA'd it once and that didn't change a single thing.

BRB, swapping drivers.

Close, except we already have 4x HDMI cables coming down the wall already, and an existing HDMI splitter he's been using already. Forgot to mention that part I guess. I was thinking: This + some shielded RCA's to the speakers (use bluetooth from the tablet): https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Amplifier-Wireless-Receiver-Digital/dp/B087JJ24SG/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3EMNW5CUXMH72&keywords=bluetooth+dac&qid=1673499554&sprefix=bluetooth+da%2Caps%2C307&sr=8-11 Then use microphones similar to these (idk if they make with receiver USB Micro-B instead of C though): https://www.amazon.com/Aisizon-Microphones-Microphone-A2d-Recording/dp/B0B4KLW9B2/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=XFYG4BTVAQ35&keywords=wireless%2Bmicrophone%2B3%2Bpack&qid=1673500243&sprefix=wireless%2Bmicrophone%2B3%2Bpac%2Caps%2C270&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUThaN05STzA2OTlaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzYzMjg2M1IzM1dHQ0JSUEJSUiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNDI5NTcyM1QyOFA0TVgxTlFNQSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1 And then I guess plug a Roku or Firestick into the 4x HDMI cables going to the TV's and use wireless display to get the screen out? (Already have an HDMI splitter) Not entirely sure if that'd work 100% though, seriously it'd be so much easier on a PC lol. I'm not 100% sure microphones will keep working on an android if you don't have an app open to use them. So say they start a video, but then they want to use the microphone during the video, that probably won't work on an Android without switching the apps back over is what I'm thinking. Or to be honest, if my idea above would even work at all.

Put here because not entirely sure what section this really belongs in........ So, I'm trying to help a local church out with their technology needs, and they've got an interesting idea but I've never done it before. Is there a way to connect speakers wirelessly, screens wirelessly (4, all displaying the same thing is fine), AND microphones (to go through the speakers) wirelessly to a Samsung Galaxy View SM-T670? I was thinking maybe get one of those wireless bluetooth to RCA adapters Parts Express sells and use bluetooth for the audio. They sell those usually for wireless surround DIY options, is basically what I was thinking. Not sure 110% if there's a bluetooth option, but I'm sure there's something out there that's a bluetooth DAC basically. I know Amazon sells some decent 3 packs of wireless microphones that come with a USB receiver that they talk to (I'd need to either find a Micro-B receiver / mic pair or convert). Although I am curious what your guys' thoughts are on what the appropriate type of mic would be suitable for the situation. So that handles KINDA audio, at least in theory? But how can I get the 4 HDMI cables we have coming down the wall, and get those wirelessly into the tablet and duplicate the display on 4 monitors too? Would I use like a Roku type device, or maybe a PC with appropriate Windows 10 capabilities of using wireless display tech or something? Would that even work? A $30 Roku sitting perhaps even up in the ceiling connected to the 4 TV's would probably be a lot easier to wireless Picture very much related, its the back of his speakers (he has 2 just like this). TLDR: We're trying to get these + mics + 4x HDMI outs, wirelessly, from a Galaxy View with USB Micro-B, Bluetooth / Wifi.

Isn't the 3090 faster than the 4070Ti? I'd almost rather grab a used 3090 personally for that kinda scratch. More VRAM available to it too, for the higher resolutions.

Like I said earlier, it ALL depends on games you play and the goals you have for that rig. If you're happy with the 2080Ti's performance, or maybe if you want just a LITTLE BIT more performance out of it (like 1-3%), then water cool it. If you want it to be a neater looking rig, water cool it. You want silence? Water cool. If you're after a bigger jump in performance, new GPU / CPU depending (in this case GPU). Basically, what I'm getting at here is that water cooling isn't going to net you any increase in performance. At least nothing tangible. Yes, you'll be able to overclock a little bit more. But is that overclock going to be worth the money invested to get it for such a small percentage increase? No. People that water cool proper, do it for other reasons. Keeping the same loop for years (as mentioned by Avacado earlier). Silence. Higher performance across multiple builds by just changing the blocks out. The looks of water cooling. DIY'ing and building something custom 100% yourself. There's many reasons why people water cool. But to make a big leap in performance, that's not one of them.