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QFT. Another interesting tidbit here......As a 6900XT owner, the current gen AMD cards really aren't HORRIBLE at raytracing, its just "RTX" that they fall on their face with. The cards CAN do it, but "RTX" is moreso an Nvidia thing just like PhysX was. So that's my bet too, the 4000 series will still be better at regular "RTX", but the 7000 series from AMD should end up doing better than the 3000 series do now, or maybe worst case about on par with. Play Crysis Remastered with RT turned on, and the 6900XT performs just fine. Launch up Cyberpunk though, and yeah, slideshow city. Difference being "DX raytracing" vs "RTX" of course. Doesn't AMD already have DLSS equivalent with RSR and FSR though? Honestly, I like the openness of AMD's options better than Nvidia's DLSS anyway. Any card can use FSR in games that support it. And RSR is honestly pretty neat to play around with too on the AMD cards that support it (5700XT and higher). I mean they're not perfect, and I'm sure DLSS is slightly more fine tuned.....but they work and they work pretty well. FSR 2.0 is even better, so they're obviously putting effort into it. It beats playing things at native lowered resolutions anyway by a long shot.

RIP Keep us posted man. Maybe the next one will last another 260+k.

Awww dude, you've been missing so much without having the mods. We've just got to get you used to the layout of the menus in the game a little bit more. You can build any car you WANT into a mad max car with a lot of the mods (and stock cars). I already went 4x4'ing in the Naches, WA (Dirty 4x4) map with a "Covet" or a little Honda hatchback. I've still got to go through sometime and redo the mods list and get a proper update going again so we have a good baseline for the latest version of the game.

And what appears to be a Chieftec Dragon with side window!!!??? Not hwbot related, but dude...you scored IMO! The system itself probably isn't half bad either. K8N-E is a NForce board, just one of the "cheaper" models. 2800+ should do as well as any other Athlon64 I'd imagine, so 2.3-2.5GHz or so easy enough. FX 5600 is great for retro systems and retro gaming even though it was a joke back then. Just wow, that's a great score.

If I'm reading up on it correctly, the 2700+ is a mobile chip too, it might overclock really really well if his board is a good NF board. 1.6GHz stock and like 35w TDP, whereas the typical Newcastle and Clawhammer Athlon64's were I think 95w and 125w, and upwards of like 2.2-2.4GHz (stock). Got lots of room for overclock on that 2700+ if it'll do it.

FX 5600 is Nvidia. Might be able to use it in the Nvidia AGP round if there is one. But the AMD round its basically Radeon 7500, 8500, and 9000.

I will agree 110% that the DLSS tech is amazing, as is FSR and the one Intel is developing. I love this idea, especially for older or lower tier cards. One problem though. Paying $1600 (MSRP, we know it'll be more than that retail) for a GPU, I shouldn't HAVE to run DLSS or FSR even at 4k. It's 2022, these GPU's are 100 fold faster than the console counterparts. I could see utilizing DLSS / FSR in consoles and again lower model GPU's....but a 4090 or 7900XT? It shouldn't be needed, and they're promoting it on the high end cards in these videos like its gold. Sorry, I'm actually a little salty that I paid $1000 for a 6900XT and I absolutely have to run FSR in some titles (that are older than the card mind you). And Nvidia is pushing DLSS on the 4090 / 4080 series too in those videos. Yeah, the tech is great. Agreed. But show it off on say the 4050 or 4060 series where it should be belonging.

I think this is the most important bit in the whole article since $1600 MSRP....gross.... But Portal with RTX!? What!!!!???

Good lookin' parts.....

Server status: OFFLINE Currently pending review on the mods list as the game was just updated to v0.26 and there's been quite a few changes to the game itself. Some of the mods I had on the server are now redundant, and others may or may not work. Will be trying to keep the map list though. Unfortunately, be prepared for a whole new server mod pack that's complete and not an update as I'll be having to delete a ton of mods. -_- My apologies in advance to anyone that has the mod pack downloaded. Will be getting it all back online and functional again in the coming days. While we wait though, feel free to clear your beammp mod folder. Or don't, up to you.

I hate to say it, but honestly BEST case scenario I personally see out of them would be a competitor to DFI. Worst case scenario, they'll be a competitor to BFG....which none of us want to see. A company that's seemingly dying, I just don't see them investing to be a competitor to Corsair in those markets.

You just take your inventory of what all you have there mate, and let me know and I'll have paypal / BTC in hand ready to go for you. I see lots of good stuff there I'm very jelly of.

Yeah idk about this, I'm getting a funny BFG type feeling here. Remember, back in the day BFG sold PSU's and other things too. I get the feeling EVGA is doing worse than we think they are and they might be closing shop for good soon. If they had already told NVidia this back in April, then they already know and they clearly don't care. So this isn't a renegotiation tactic. Yeah, their PSU sales make more of a percentage, but the GPU's make more flat out money. 3% on $3000 3090's > 30% on $50 PSU's. Yes, I know those are extreme examples, but you get the idea. From what I understand 80% or so of their income was from GPU sales (per comments and forum topics). This might just be the end of them.

Some good stuff in there! Any of those K5's or K6's? Asking for a friend......

No worries! I came in late to the party as usual, and as I said, I wasn't all that attentive or talkative because of....per usual, my own screw ups. -_- Still can't believe I messed up my Ryzen 3600. I still haven't gotten around to pulling the CMOS yet to fix it. Yeah, your rigs are pretty sweet.

What vcore are you seeing when it shoots up that high? As I said earlier, mine sits around 1.20-1.22v under full load. Maybe yours is shooting 1.30v+ through it stock?

What temps are you seeing @UltraMega and at what voltages? We have very similar systems. Maybe its not the AIO itself? Yours is a 280mm, I'm on a 240mm. My temps skyrocket near immediately, but they tend to even out around 75*C or so at around 1.20v using PBO (Cinebench full load). PBO is boosting me to 4.6GHz all cores, and around 5.1GHz single core. I do have a -50mV offset set for vcore though too, otherwise mine gets right up to the thermal throttle limitations at stock settings. Make sure you're looking at the actual "CPU Temp" too, and not Diode or Package. Those are both GOING to get considerably hotter and there's nothing you can do about it that I know of. Diode + Package are "safe" up to 95*C according to AMD's specs IIRC. They have a blanket statement of 90*C max safe temps right on the specs page. "CPU Temp" is what you see in the BIOS too. I am running a "tweaked" PBO though. PBO Enabled, +200MHz Offset, Auto everything else in PBO settings. And again the -50mV offset voltage for vcore (1.25 down to 1.20v). If I go to -75mV offset I boost to 4.75GHz / 4.8GHz all core, but benchmarks seem to score considerably less, so I figure its not stable that high with that low of voltage....which makes sense. 1:1 IF Clock and Memory too, that's important. I've heard lots of rumors of, I think its concave IHS's on the Ryzen 5000 series? Maybe others can confirm? My CPU definitely isn't flat at all, you can tell when you take your cooler off and look at the way the grease squishes.

I'm so confused, and to be honest a little frustrated. They need to be more consistent with USB protocols. USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and even 3.0 are all the same and backwards compatible. Then we stepped into USB 3.1, USB C, USB 3.2 or something, and I'm sure this USB 4 stuff probably won't be universal either. It's driving me batty. USB, the U is supposed to stand for universal. It's one thing to have different ends on the wires. Or advancing the protocol, which I understand happens. But things aren't backwards compatible at all anymore like they used to be. If you have a USB 2.0 device for example, it sometimes does NOT work on a newer USB port anymore like it should. And trying a USB 3.0 (or newer) device on an older plug....haha forget it. Then there's large power draw differences that cause things to melt. Just ugh. -_- Sorry, not a big fan of USB anymore after blowing up 5 different USB hubs and still not having any luck because I have zero clue what the actual problems are. It absolutely IS really neat though that they're getting 80Gbps though. Should give display port, HDMI, and other types of cabling a run for their money, absolutely. One cable that does 4k display, keyboard, mouse, LAN, etc, etc. I believe Linus uses something similar, Thunderbolt was it? The advancement is cool. I just wish they'd be more universal since that's quite literally a part of the name.

Idk if that was @ me or somebody else that was in the chat today. My apologies, I was busy trying to get that stupid old rig working right. Normally I am more talkative. That and lack of coffee didn't help a whole lot. Woke up actually groggy feeling today. -_- I don't care who you are or what you look like. Respect is respect. And why, WHY is everyone scoring 9590's these days? I'm sitting here with a junk 8350. -_- /me pulls up ebay If you're going to be remotely serious about AM3+, the 9590 is a good bet just because 5GHz stock clocks. And obviously I don't need to talk up the Crosshair...... But it does look like you're "winning" with a good 8350 setup too. Same setup I'm running, so me and you will be head to head. I have Ripjaws for RAM though. If you torture it with enough volts, 5GHz+ should be attainable with the 8350. Maybe more if you get a good one and if you water cool it, which you probably will. Any tips or tricks mate? I can't seem to pass 1966 on my 5800x without using a heavy divider on the IF clock. Does benching actually get better with dividers or is 1:1 still the best method? I've never tried getting my 4000 sticks to go higher since I've never even ran them at 4000.

/img/logo.png pioneerisloud`s SuperPi - 16M score: 11min 45sec 969ms with a Opteron 180 HWBOT.ORG The Opteron 180 @ 3028.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the SuperPi - 16M benchmark. pioneerisloudranks #null worldwide and... Just wanted to share that I busted out the older gear today. Not the best of scores, but my motherboard absolutely sucks on this build. IF I have time, IF......I might bust out the A8N32-SLI Deluxe with this RAM to give it a proper go. Probably not though, I still have AMD CPU's to bench like I promised, and apparently DDR4 to bench, and I could probably give the DDR2 bench a go too.

Best I could get, and it was a VERY dirty overclock -_- https://hwbot.org/submission/5077517

We're like 500-600 points behind 1st place. I'm not sure exactly to be honest. When I was running my 3600, it seemed almost like 100Mhz extra was about 100 points extra. So it'd probably take an all core run at 4.7GHz or so is my GUESS on an 8 core part to get us near there. I could be wrong though. And hey, at least you ran it! Every score helps. Even if I ran and beat your 5800x run, if my run was disqualified for whatever reason, yours would still count kind of thing.

Yup that's the one. My Ryzen 3600 did 5336. @UltraMega with a 5800x did a score of 7729. I feel like there's room for improvement there, possibly enough to take us to 1st place. But if I run my 5800x, it cancels out my 3600 run, and nobody else has ran a 6 core yet. -_-

@UltraMega, any chance you can get your RAM / IF clock up higher? Maybe a little higher CPU boost or something too? My Ryzen 3600 got really really close to your 5800x run. I'd run my 5800x that's at 4.7 with DDR4-1967 1:1 IF Clock, but that'll knock us out of the 6 core run with my 3600 since each person can only have one submission per category. And we need 6c / 8c / 12c / 16c runs in there. Only reason I'm asking, we're SOOOOO close to 1st place in the Stage 4 AMD CPU section.

Alright, RE-ran the 3dmark runs because I didn't have URL's included in them...... While I was at it, I also ran the GDDR6 comp / Timespy on my 6900XT. /img/logo.png pioneerisloud`s 3DMark - Time Spy (GPU) score: 21101 marks with a Radeon RX 6900 XT HWBOT.ORG The Radeon RX 6900 XTscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Time Spy (GPU) benchmark. pioneerisloudranks #40 worldwide and...