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I hate to say it, but honestly BEST case scenario I personally see out of them would be a competitor to DFI. Worst case scenario, they'll be a competitor to BFG....which none of us want to see. A company that's seemingly dying, I just don't see them investing to be a competitor to Corsair in those markets.

You just take your inventory of what all you have there mate, and let me know and I'll have paypal / BTC in hand ready to go for you. I see lots of good stuff there I'm very jelly of.

Yeah idk about this, I'm getting a funny BFG type feeling here. Remember, back in the day BFG sold PSU's and other things too. I get the feeling EVGA is doing worse than we think they are and they might be closing shop for good soon. If they had already told NVidia this back in April, then they already know and they clearly don't care. So this isn't a renegotiation tactic. Yeah, their PSU sales make more of a percentage, but the GPU's make more flat out money. 3% on $3000 3090's > 30% on $50 PSU's. Yes, I know those are extreme examples, but you get the idea. From what I understand 80% or so of their income was from GPU sales (per comments and forum topics). This might just be the end of them.

Some good stuff in there! Any of those K5's or K6's? Asking for a friend......

No worries! I came in late to the party as usual, and as I said, I wasn't all that attentive or talkative because of....per usual, my own screw ups. -_- Still can't believe I messed up my Ryzen 3600. I still haven't gotten around to pulling the CMOS yet to fix it. Yeah, your rigs are pretty sweet.

What vcore are you seeing when it shoots up that high? As I said earlier, mine sits around 1.20-1.22v under full load. Maybe yours is shooting 1.30v+ through it stock?

What temps are you seeing @UltraMega and at what voltages? We have very similar systems. Maybe its not the AIO itself? Yours is a 280mm, I'm on a 240mm. My temps skyrocket near immediately, but they tend to even out around 75*C or so at around 1.20v using PBO (Cinebench full load). PBO is boosting me to 4.6GHz all cores, and around 5.1GHz single core. I do have a -50mV offset set for vcore though too, otherwise mine gets right up to the thermal throttle limitations at stock settings. Make sure you're looking at the actual "CPU Temp" too, and not Diode or Package. Those are both GOING to get considerably hotter and there's nothing you can do about it that I know of. Diode + Package are "safe" up to 95*C according to AMD's specs IIRC. They have a blanket statement of 90*C max safe temps right on the specs page. "CPU Temp" is what you see in the BIOS too. I am running a "tweaked" PBO though. PBO Enabled, +200MHz Offset, Auto everything else in PBO settings. And again the -50mV offset voltage for vcore (1.25 down to 1.20v). If I go to -75mV offset I boost to 4.75GHz / 4.8GHz all core, but benchmarks seem to score considerably less, so I figure its not stable that high with that low of voltage....which makes sense. 1:1 IF Clock and Memory too, that's important. I've heard lots of rumors of, I think its concave IHS's on the Ryzen 5000 series? Maybe others can confirm? My CPU definitely isn't flat at all, you can tell when you take your cooler off and look at the way the grease squishes.

I'm so confused, and to be honest a little frustrated. They need to be more consistent with USB protocols. USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0, and even 3.0 are all the same and backwards compatible. Then we stepped into USB 3.1, USB C, USB 3.2 or something, and I'm sure this USB 4 stuff probably won't be universal either. It's driving me batty. USB, the U is supposed to stand for universal. It's one thing to have different ends on the wires. Or advancing the protocol, which I understand happens. But things aren't backwards compatible at all anymore like they used to be. If you have a USB 2.0 device for example, it sometimes does NOT work on a newer USB port anymore like it should. And trying a USB 3.0 (or newer) device on an older plug....haha forget it. Then there's large power draw differences that cause things to melt. Just ugh. -_- Sorry, not a big fan of USB anymore after blowing up 5 different USB hubs and still not having any luck because I have zero clue what the actual problems are. It absolutely IS really neat though that they're getting 80Gbps though. Should give display port, HDMI, and other types of cabling a run for their money, absolutely. One cable that does 4k display, keyboard, mouse, LAN, etc, etc. I believe Linus uses something similar, Thunderbolt was it? The advancement is cool. I just wish they'd be more universal since that's quite literally a part of the name.

Idk if that was @ me or somebody else that was in the chat today. My apologies, I was busy trying to get that stupid old rig working right. Normally I am more talkative. That and lack of coffee didn't help a whole lot. Woke up actually groggy feeling today. -_- I don't care who you are or what you look like. Respect is respect. And why, WHY is everyone scoring 9590's these days? I'm sitting here with a junk 8350. -_- /me pulls up ebay If you're going to be remotely serious about AM3+, the 9590 is a good bet just because 5GHz stock clocks. And obviously I don't need to talk up the Crosshair...... But it does look like you're "winning" with a good 8350 setup too. Same setup I'm running, so me and you will be head to head. I have Ripjaws for RAM though. If you torture it with enough volts, 5GHz+ should be attainable with the 8350. Maybe more if you get a good one and if you water cool it, which you probably will. Any tips or tricks mate? I can't seem to pass 1966 on my 5800x without using a heavy divider on the IF clock. Does benching actually get better with dividers or is 1:1 still the best method? I've never tried getting my 4000 sticks to go higher since I've never even ran them at 4000.

/img/logo.png pioneerisloud`s SuperPi - 16M score: 11min 45sec 969ms with a Opteron 180 HWBOT.ORG The Opteron 180 @ 3028.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the SuperPi - 16M benchmark. pioneerisloudranks #null worldwide and... Just wanted to share that I busted out the older gear today. Not the best of scores, but my motherboard absolutely sucks on this build. IF I have time, IF......I might bust out the A8N32-SLI Deluxe with this RAM to give it a proper go. Probably not though, I still have AMD CPU's to bench like I promised, and apparently DDR4 to bench, and I could probably give the DDR2 bench a go too.

Best I could get, and it was a VERY dirty overclock -_- https://hwbot.org/submission/5077517

We're like 500-600 points behind 1st place. I'm not sure exactly to be honest. When I was running my 3600, it seemed almost like 100Mhz extra was about 100 points extra. So it'd probably take an all core run at 4.7GHz or so is my GUESS on an 8 core part to get us near there. I could be wrong though. And hey, at least you ran it! Every score helps. Even if I ran and beat your 5800x run, if my run was disqualified for whatever reason, yours would still count kind of thing.

Yup that's the one. My Ryzen 3600 did 5336. @UltraMega with a 5800x did a score of 7729. I feel like there's room for improvement there, possibly enough to take us to 1st place. But if I run my 5800x, it cancels out my 3600 run, and nobody else has ran a 6 core yet. -_-

@UltraMega, any chance you can get your RAM / IF clock up higher? Maybe a little higher CPU boost or something too? My Ryzen 3600 got really really close to your 5800x run. I'd run my 5800x that's at 4.7 with DDR4-1967 1:1 IF Clock, but that'll knock us out of the 6 core run with my 3600 since each person can only have one submission per category. And we need 6c / 8c / 12c / 16c runs in there. Only reason I'm asking, we're SOOOOO close to 1st place in the Stage 4 AMD CPU section.

Alright, RE-ran the 3dmark runs because I didn't have URL's included in them...... While I was at it, I also ran the GDDR6 comp / Timespy on my 6900XT. /img/logo.png pioneerisloud`s 3DMark - Time Spy (GPU) score: 21101 marks with a Radeon RX 6900 XT HWBOT.ORG The Radeon RX 6900 XTscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Time Spy (GPU) benchmark. pioneerisloudranks #40 worldwide and...

Went thrifting again today. -_- I should've taken pictures, but I've already got everything put up. Scored the following: Sony IFC-CD815 Dream Machine CD / Radio / AUX multi alarm clock radio $21.99 Some vintage looking alarm clock (beeper only) $3.99 (for kiddo) 2 unopened packages of DVD-R's (50 and 30 packs) $4.99 ea Logitech K400r Touchpad / Wireless keyboard $4.99 And a surge protector and extension cord because why not for $1.99 ea Kind of overspent a LITTLE bit on the nicer alarm clock, but looking at ebay, seems the pricing was pretty fair anyway. Also bought on ebay (also today): AMD Phenom II x4 965BE $19.99 free ship 20g tube of MX-4 $20.50 I think it was .....for the hwbot comp.

Oh absolutely so! I'll admit, I paid to "alpha test" Beamng.drive. I'd do it again too as its a finished product (enough) as is if you consider it a sandbox driving simulator. I look at that particular title as anything extra they release for it as "free DLC" so to speak lol. HOWEVER, I bought it years and years AFTER it released in alpha stages, its been in alpha stages for 9 years now. I doubt it'll ever be a "final" game. But who knows? I've more than gotten my $20 out of it in gameplay over the years. Honestly if people (in general) would have just a LITTLE bit of patience, and wait for game reviews to come out, early testers (of the final product), and things like that, and actually READ INTO IT, we'd have a ton of less wasted money on video games and more companies that actually care to release something good. If its reviewed poorly, its probably a poor waste of money. I mean seriously, who absolutely HAS to play the latest Cowadooty on release day? Are you going to die playing last year's Battlefield another couple days while you wait for reviews? Really? I get it, people do just that....but that's kind of my point here. On the flip side, developers and publishers have gotten lazy in the internet era too. I hate to go there, but "back in my day" you could go to the store and buy a boxed CD or DVD copy of a game. You'd plop it into your computer, and it would just work. They HAD to make it a playable experience, otherwise magazines would give you a poor rating (which people read), and people on the gaming TV channels would review it poorly, things like that. DLC wasn't really a thing, but full on expansion packs were. Which, people were fine with as you got SOOOO much extra content for your money. With modern broadband internet though, they can release garbage day 1, then release a day 1 DLC and patch update that still breaks it, and then blame it on the patch. Few days later, send out another update because they promised to fix it, and the cycle continues. Mix in extra outfits and in game purchases for even more money, and you've got yourself a multi million dollar game that's still broken. But they promised to fix it, so we'll still give them more money until they do...... So I guess really, the fault is MORESO still on the developers and publishers, but honestly we can blame the customers a little bit for being impatient and wanting things now now now too. If this were reddit, I'd say everybody is the butthole here.

That's why I uploaded "updates". That way you don't HAVE to download the whole pack again that I did the first time. For you, you just need the v0.02 "update" pack I uploaded. Using the repo only adds it to your SP mods list, BeamMP has to be zip files anyway. I "could" start doing links to the repo, but then people might get confused where to put them at, or just hit subscribe and not know why its not working in multiplayer. Armored tank? Do I need to do a v0.03 already?

And we expect any different or better from Microsoft? I keep saying it, and I'll say it again, quit giving greedy companies money. We have nobody to blame on this but the people that keep giving these companies money that screw over the customer. I remember a certain screenshot from 2007, of people boycotting EA's Origin and BF3. On release day, everyone had a copy and were playing it. What did that tell EA? Same thing applies here with Microsoft and Halo.

Alright, here's the new mod pack! BeamMP Mod Pack v0.02 (Latest Version) And.....for those that already had the old one...... Updates: BeamMP Mod Pack v0.01 (old version) BeamMP Mod Pack Update v0.02 Server is back ONLINE!

Update: Added 3 new mods to the pack and 2 new maps. New (latest version) pack is uploading right now and the OP will be corrected once it is. I've also added a new "updates" section to the OP, so if you miss an update to the mods list, you can easily just grab the latest updates from the last version you had without the need to re-download the full 3+GB. Hopefully it doesn't get TOO confusing. Will have older mod packs listed under the updates section as well, for archival purposes. Also switched to google drive over OneDrive. 15GB > 5GB. That should be sufficient to host what I've got going on here, at least for a while. If the mod pack starts getting broken, for whatever reason and I have to delete stuff, it'll end up being a full re-download for everyone anyway as I'll have to update the whole pack to delete stuff. Hopefully that doesn't happen, but it can since mods. Added Mods: Dodge's Body Lift v1.0 Weird Wheel Pack v3.0 Player Weapons and Guns Added Maps: Dirty 4x4 Offroad v1.5 (Naches, WA trails) BeamNG Off Road Open Desert Trails 4096x4096 v1.8.1 Server is currently OFFLINE due to the updates. Will post an update once its back online and the DL links are live. Apologies for the delay.

Put me down for a 2TB NVME, Gen4 hopefully, and a pair of 4TB 2.5's, or whatever other cheap(er) way I can accomplish 8TB for a secondary drive for games. Kthxbai! Been waiting on SSD's for my main rig since I built it. I dunno if I can wait too much longer.....I'll end up with a whole nother build before too long. Got 2x 256GB NVME's in it now, and that's just not enough for actual gaming these days. Works great for general usage though, and the couple games I have on the SSD's at least.

It's almost that time for me to fire mine back up! I do need to make sure I don't have any further uses out of that system for the hwbot comp first. Once I'm 100% sure I'm done with the rig for that, it'll be back on folding for team rats nest!

Seriously though, great offer @Cerberus! Only card I'd have that I wouldn't mind parting with would be an RX 580, and those don't fold worth a darn anyway. Maybe my GTX 960 or 970? How do those do? I think I'm scheduled on the team though as an AMD card. My 290x, I won't send, its part of my collection.....and that's the card I usually fold on when the weather permits.

Wish we could talk more of these yoohoos into playing with us. It's on sale right now for 20% off on Humble Bundle.